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Originally Posted by Wanderer
Looking up something I already know won't help you pull your own head out of your ass. That's something only you can do.
Seriously. Look it up. It's even mentioned in the Wikipedia article you posted a few days ago.
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Are you trolling me, wanderer?
The article I posted defines clearly what a logical reasoning is, and it's not anything close to what you claim.
Besides how can you even remotely claim that a logical fallacy is legit?
What's your problem exactly?
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Originally Posted by Wanderer
How about how Ikuko doesn't think of herself as human?
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Already answered, and besides, that's featherine not Ikuko. The Ikuko on the flashbacks and the Ikuko seen by Yukari doesn't really display the arrogance and air of superiority that are characteristic of Featherine.
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Originally Posted by AuraTwilight
Too bad he's completely wrong, huh?
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Well now, "completely". He's wrong, but a good part of his story can be explained. If he made that statement it means that at least he tried to write his story that way. To say that nothing in Umineko is properly hinted would be an enormous bullshit.
So in the end, if it is apparent, easily deducible and it doesn't conflict with anything, what is the reason to think it's a lie?
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Originally Posted by AuraTwilight
Holy shit, if this were a relevant or accurate metaphor for what anyone in the thread was doing, you'd totally have a point! Too bad.
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But it is. Maybe you haven't read all the comments.
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Originally Posted by AuraTwilight
No, that's not what a Premise is. The premise is how you introduce the reader to the scenario. "Battler fights a witch he doesn't believe exists" is a premise. "Everyone is being murdered in a suspiciously stereotypical murder mystery" is a premise.
"Battler is alive" is a plot twist right at the epilogue.
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Plot twists are never
mentioned in the premise, that would defy the whole idea of a plot twist. The sixth sense, the others, the usual suspects, fight club. None of them
tell you from the beginning what the story is actually about in the premise. It doesn't change that the premise of the story is entirely based on that plot twist, you just learn it at the very end.
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Originally Posted by GreyZone
2. "19^9": during the incident "Beatrice" was 19 years old.
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You got it wrong It's 18^8. There's no 19^9 anywhere. and that's the reading of Touya Hachijo
The "19" is still taken from the name "Ikuko".
By the way Iku(ko) Hachijo would be 19^8, though no one mentioned that in the story.