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Originally Posted by Shadow5YA
Shirou is also presumably the same (an orphaned child adopted by Kiritsugu), but that doesn't make either because Zero's ending never happened in this series.
Irisviel's Grail was never destroyed, meaning the contents never spilled out and destroyed Shirou's hometown, which was what led to Kiritsugu rescuing him.
All Caren stated was that the Holy Grail made 10 years ago was incomplete. There are just too many possibilities on what could have happened differently in Prisma Ilya, though honestly I'm not sure that matters since it's hinted that the Class Cards were more because of what happened on Miyu's side than Ilya's.
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In this verse Iri isn't a homunculus nor are Sella and Lisette. Even if Illya was the Holy Grail the infinite mana wouldn't make sense. Even FSN Illya does not have infinite mana unless in certain conditions.
Kuro said to Miyu their ways are not that different. Commenting Rin and Luvia being humans.
Caren comments that Illya is a necessity, Miyu is accidental and Kuro is a miracle.
Originally the Holy Grail is not a person but an actual grail in FSN. But the practice of a physical grail ended during the Third Grail War. Which necessitated a homunculus such as Irisviel to serve in its stead. Later Illya.
But since the history is different my guess is that Illya was to be sacrificed as the core of the Greater Grail.
So what Caren said was true the Holy Grail was not completed. Kiritsugu killed the Einzberns before they could do so.
But Illya... Illya is core of the Greater Grail thus she has what the Einzberns has been looking for a thousand years, Third Magic. This explains how she can make a wish true and her infinite mana.
Justeaze Lizrich von Einzbern never became the core in this verse.
While Illya has Third Magic does not mean Einzbern's have it. Thus they needed a Grail War and a Holy Grail to facilitate their wish.
Illya is a necessity cause she is the core of the Greater Grail, Miyu is accidental cause she is a natural Lesser Grail, Kuro is a miracle because Third Magic allowed her existence.