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Originally Posted by maximilianjenus

Spoiler for about takano clinic:

Remeber that the reason takano did not get funding was because the guy helping him (I forgot the name) was busy the day he presented his plans; if for some simple random reason (like keichi's parents traveling to tokyo in different days) the whole meeting gets moves one day, he can get funds from tokyo.

There is some talk about 5 years of research, but if takano got funds from tokyo, we are talking that he has 20 or more years of headstart over miyo, so even if it takes him longer to find the cure for the disease, he still has a lot fo time to do so.

Yeah that might be true, but I think then we are forgetting something. First: keep it in mind that the whole Tokyo group always intended to gain a weapon from the whole syndrome.

Spoiler for that scenario:

Let's assume the scenario that the tokyo group would have been involved with Dr Takano and Nurse 34 is still all smiles and happy with her own family so she is out of picture:
The Tokyo group would have no reason not to send such messy characters like okonogi (or what was his name, the right hand man, I might mispelled it) and his fellow brigand band to Hinamizawa. Obviously the Tokyo would secretly put someone just as aggressive, cunning person with leadership skills (in the place of nurse 34) in charge there (if that person would be the new doctor I'm deeply impressed with his actorial abilities, as he looks completely incapable of everything ). And it was shown in the episode that Okonogi's band is not here because Rika was looking for them too.
Even if we assume Miyo, Okonogi and Co is not here, the Tokyo group would try to prevent the Dam construction in their own way (and they are powerful, so I reckon they could prevent it without them) if they would be interested, because it's unlikely they could have finished researching everything 5years ago regarding the Syndrome (not to mention that the Doctor died x years before that time anyway as it was shown in the nurse's Past, most likely without successor) +found a way to use it as a weapon, +have a manufacturable antidote, and possibly even cured all the people who could have been affected in order to brush everything under the carpet, so no one else can suspect them. (And by the way we all know what their favorite "brushing everything under the carpet" method is...)

Didn't Rika mention during Kai that the reason K1 moved to Hinamizawa was because his father saw two little girls playing in a field? Specifically Rika and Hanyuu, therefore suggesting that Hinamizawa was a good (safe) place to raise children (ironic isn't it?). If this event does not happen, K1 doesn't move to Hinamizawa.

yes but I believe that scene happens only after K1 got into the shooting incident which made his Dad to start looking for a new place where he could work in peace. He was carrying a photomachine as far as I remember which we could interpret it even such a way that he was making photos so they can decide it with mommy or even with Keichii if the place is alright to move. Obviously it might be possible that he was only using photographs to inspire himself later with (he's an artist).

Spoiler for k1:

It's also very probable that keichi raped little girls or whatever he did to them, but still his parents did not move to hinamisawa, Rika had already mentioned that it has happened before. And that is more likely to happen sicne hinamisawa is oging to be submerged.

Yeah that's also possible.
I actually just started to think following that.
I was in the impression that multiple things cannot be different in each world, so that's the reason I was assuming that we only need to follow Frederika's interference with Takano, and the result would be pretty much the same as it is now. However! There are no rule which says only one difference can be between Rika's worlds.
Or I go even further. What if Frederika interfered with loli 34 in an already different world (the same one we got after the reboot in now), and that's why some things like K1's absence are "normal" here. I mean not the result of anyone's interference, instead it's only the abnormality by chance, random misfortune in which case, -just like in past worlds according to Rika, his parents simply did not move to Hinamizawa here.