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Old 2012-07-16, 14:02   Link #29674
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Originally Posted by Jan-Poo View Post
Well I disagree with that, saying that "some cows are brown" in red directly implies that cows exist. Because it affirms the existence of brown cows.

The problem here is that red by definition can only be used for real statements. Stating facts about hypotetical or fictional concepts is forbidden. Or at least it should be forbidden.
Unfortunately, Umineko appears to permit this. It also allows speculative statements, intent statements, and statements with no possible truth value at all. So why not?

Also bear in mind this only applies in ep5 to descriptive statements about "knocks" themselves, such as sounds made etc. It doesn't apply to a statement like "no one heard a knock" or "no one could have produced a knock." In those cases it wouldn't matter if a knock existed at all. Although in those cases they're still describing an allegedly nonexistent event while sort of implying it happened, but those are more obvious cases of the example.
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