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Originally Posted by dniv

Spoiler for Chapter 6 don't read this unless you've beaten the game:

Basically, I think that the meta scenario in Chapter 6 was actually very interesting. And I don't think the ending is as divisive as you think it is. I think that the real problem is that most people are going to misunderstand the nature of the ending because I've seen it happen already. But that isn't the creators fault.

Spoiler for chapter 6:

And it is exactly that: divisive. Regardless if the audience figured out what Kodaka tried with that ending, it is extremely obvious that a lot of people will not like that. I've heard of that when it was released in Japan, and now, this happen with westerners too.

I can't blame people who don't like the ending because the meta elements really hit hard on 2 very specific aspects:
1) the ending implies DR1 and DR2 are "fictional" within DR setup, which is hard to stomach for a lot of people. Sure, it is obvious all the stuff with Junko and kibougamine couldn't even reasonably happen IRL, but they do happen within its own premise. DRV3 "implies" it is fictional within the game universe, which "nullify" them completely if you trust Tsugumi's revelations.

2) it "openly criticizes" the audience for not caring about the characters and just want more killing. This is obviously not true, but the criticizm towards in-game audience can hit home.

And frankly, I'm pretty sure Kodaka did that on purpose considering the narrative, hence why it isn't surprising a lot of fans aren't really satisfied by that ending. As such, he is also at fault for that matter, but he assumes it. That's why he outright told during cons and interviews that he realize full well that DRV3 will make (some) fans hating his guts.

Spoiler for chapter 6:

The point is that games 1 and 2 are part of the Danganronpa series tv show in the setting of the third game's world. However, I'm not so sure that's true. I think it may be possible that Tsumugi was trying to demoralize everyone by lying and hiding the truth.

Spoiler for Chapter 6:

Let me get straight: I'm pretty certain she lied on a lot of points at the end, and this is probably one of them too.

Simply put, it is extremely unlikely a "peaceful world, void of Despair" would be appealed by that kind of game. Furthermore, Tsugumi is not Junko, so her plan is definitely not as "foolprouf" as the real Junko.

The most obvious evidence of that decrepency between the two masterminds is purely how she tried to portray the students as "fanboys/fangirls who wanted to take part of the killing game". This is proven false if you compare the real prologue and their "memories". Tsumugi used interviews to prove that they were freaks, but conveniently, the camera angle is quite weird, not facing them but recording from above. Because of this, it wouldn't be surprising that she cosplayed as them (since their original clothes were probably retrieved by her) and pretended that. I don't believe one second her allergy is genuine and considering how whacky the technology and stuff is in DRV3, having some artificial means to generate hive breakout is more plausible than nano-sized monokubs with camera.
Also, the prologue demonstrate that Rantaro had an idea immediately after noticing they were 16, and Kaede was shocked when she heard the name "Monokubs".

So that pretty much proves the kids were actually kidnapped, and invalidate the premise of "they were DR freaks". Because of this, we can conclude the public watching the games are either fake (unlikely) or much less numerous than what Tsugumi was implying.

Because of this cascade of lies, there is absolutely no evidence backing Tsugumi's words that DR1 and DR2 are fiction. If anything, the ending suggests heavily that both existed, which also explains Tsugumi frantic attempts to copy that. Because of this, it is very likely that Tsugumi was part of the remnants of despair, or some individual that was pretty close to that.

Spoiler for Chapter 6:

The brilliance of chapter 6 is that it has two separate opposite consistent messages. The first message is that even lies can be meaningful. This is seen based on the normal meta-commentary. And regardless of what happens in DRV4, it's still being communicated. Lots of characters have emotional attachment to these characters which is why I think there is a crucial distinction to be made.

That's exactly what I implied with the concept of chap 6though.

Spoiler for Chapter 6:

IDK. I still think that even read straight the ending is really interesting. I want to see the characters of the game go out into "the real world" and interact with the real world after having ended Danganronpa. It'd be great if the series moves past hope and despair because there's more to this stuff than just that. But IDK.

Spoiler for Chapter 6:

I never stated otherwise. That's why I said Kodaka was pretty ambitious with that chapter.

My problem lies with the fact that he didn't go that far with the "lies can be reality" thing. That's why I think Hope (concept, not the vote itself) would still work for Shuichi, Maki and Himiko. Because it doesn't matter if they are fictional. Even the in-game audience wanted the game to stop, meaning that it is "about time to stop toying with the lives of the characters". From there, it would have been more satisfying with the spirit of the franchise as a whole, even if the whole Hope/Despair thing came extremely late in DRV3.

Simply put, I was a bit more disappointed that Shuichi preferred to discard his life and "giving the middle finger to the DR team and public" instead of cherishing his life, esp after what Kaede told him.

Originally Posted by Wandering Soul

Which members of the cast stood out to you the most? You said that the cast was for the most part balanced, but which members left more of an impression on you, whether favorable or unfavorable?

For me, it goes like this:

Favorable:
-Kokichi
-Shuichi
-Kaede

Unfavorable:
-Korekiyo
-Miu
-Rantaro

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

Lets see if I can do this without reading spoilers:
Is it actually worth the 60 Bucks steam is asking for or should I wait for a major sale?
All the other Danganronpa games costs half as much and from what I read on steam have about the same amount of voiceover.

Just try it for yourself and decide if you should claim a refund within the allowed timeframe you can do that.