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Old 2009-09-27, 19:44   Link #5635
morbosfist
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Originally Posted by bladeofdarkness View Post
stepping on everything he's been fighting for ?
because its all about him, right ?
the 100,000,000 japanese people living under severe oppression were a minor detail
She made the plan because of him. Before that, the oppression didn't bother her that much. Also, do you think 100,000,000 Japanese people are going to fit in the area surrounding a mountain? Unless they planned to stuff them in side by side, low admission or denying admission were expected outcomes.

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Originally Posted by bladeofdarkness View Post
euhpie was trying to change it as well, just taking a different route
what bothers you is that she wasnt trying to destory britannia, which lelouch viewed as the only valid option
What bothers me is that, like Suzaku, she is too narrow-minded in what she's doing. She didn't make the SAZ as wide-spread change or something to be implemented for everyone, just for a select group. Lelouch always has the big picture in mind.

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Originally Posted by bladeofdarkness View Post
you ignore her position as vice-governer of japan (soon to be governor for real, according to cornelia)
or the fact that Cornelia would have backed her up in the face of any opposition on her dream
as would shnizel, if it proved effective
That was before Euphie gave up her title. Cornelia also wasn't willing to back her up when their views didn't mesh. She only supported the SAZ because Schneizel had given the go-ahead.

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Originally Posted by bladeofdarkness View Post
i dont try to make him out as a monster
i'm trying to make him out as a selfish man with delusions of grandeur and a huge chip on his shoulder
who drops the fate of an entire nation down the drain the moment his little sister is placed at any kind of risk
because THATS what he is when you get right down to it
at least in season 1
It's also a horrible oversimplification.

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Originally Posted by bladeofdarkness View Post
that was what betteroffer was talking about
that aside from ordering her to shoot him, he would also change some of her memories and there by change her
i was commenting on that version
She wouldn't remember shooting him, unless he told her to. That's all that would change.

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Originally Posted by bladeofdarkness View Post
who didnt care, shnizel ?
charles ?
charles doesnt care about anything, and shnizel does whats effective
and if its effective to give the japanese people some of their rights back, then thats what he'd do
Charles cares enough to order entire countries conquered on a whim. He'd care enough to stop the SAZ if he didn't expect Lelouch to do it for him. Schneizel only supported the SAZ as a means to stifle the terrorists, not for the sake of equal rights. He wouldn't hesitate to restore the status quo.

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Originally Posted by bladeofdarkness View Post
step one, destroy britannia
step two, with britannia gone, the world is a better place
step three, nunnaly gets to live in a better world

lelouch was not going to use geass to convince everyone to start recycling or stop whale hunting
lelouch's method of improving the world was one single aspect at all times
the one that ties in with his revenge
Again, oversimplifying for the sake of your argument. Destroying Britannia was a task that needed to be done for anything else to happen. Can't very well have a better world with these crazy bastards conquering everyone in sight.
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