[MuzikalNotes]

Originally Posted by Cola91

Sooooooooo I would like to start by thanking all of the Witch Hunt group for your patch since I really got to like umineko a lot and I'm kinda obsessioned by it lately ^^.

Well since I'm here I would like to share my thoughts about the first half of EP3.

Spoiler for theory:spoiler for EP3 first half:

So what should I start with?
The thing that bugged me the most was the story about the secret house and Beatrice's "death".
Beatrice stated in red that when Rosa brought her out of the fence she was certainly dead (and it was 20 years ago according to Rosa's story), yet we also watched the dialogue between Beatrice and Kinzo which took place 19 years ago in 1967(which shouldn't have happened since Beatrice died in 1966) and the prologue whiche tell us something that in my opinion is very important and contradicts Beatrice's "theory" since in the flashback She calls the witch she sees Beatrice while during the game She says that She has been the Endless witch for a thousand years.

Putting all of this together I tried to elaborate the most absurd theory I could trying to match what Ryukishi could possibly think. But let's start from the beginning:
I think Kumasawa was Kinzo's secret love (It's quite amusing thinking that his grandsons would also fall in love with a servant years later),Kumasawa had a baby that had to be hidden from other people and was hence brought up in the Kuwadorian.
So Beatrice grew up in the forest and Kumasawa was her attendant since She was the only one who knew about the child (this would also explain why Kinzo would maintain such a lazy servant) and the one we see in the prologue is actually Kumasawa-san telling stories to Beatrice.
Kinzo brought up Beatrice to seduce her (lolicon LOL) because Kumasawa rejected him.

Ok now comes the absurd part. Since it was stated in red that Beatrice died 20 years ago but was still alive one year later I could only think of one thing: the Beatrice talking with Kinzo in 1967 is a clone (gonna get flamed for this XDDD) that Kinzo made in order to have his love back and has no memory but the things about being a witch and stuff and She probably wouldn't be counted as a human on the island in 1986.

LOL that's so stupid that it is even painful to look at XD

I hope it was clear enough since English is not my first language (I'm italian :P) and that at least the first part of the theory doesn't look stupid XD

Well, this is just what I got from the translation of ep 3 (episode 2 thread is going to die pretty soon), so correct me if I'm wrong (with no spoilers for the latter half of ep 3, of course. I don't like spoilers).

Spoiler for your theory:

Thing is, you have to remember Beatrice is just a title, like the Golden Witch and Endless Witch titles, which Eva-Beatrice obtained in Chapter 11, and not an official name, like most of the other characters have (Battler, Jessica, Eva, etc). Though this doesn't counter your theory in any way. In fact, I have another theory of my own.
The Beatrice Kinzo might have loved was, in fact, present-day Virgilia, but the fact that she looks nothing like Beato doesn't really help. Maybe Kinzo loved her so much that he started having an interest in anyone with the name Beatrice?
I'm still sticking with my 'Beatrice was a human ancestor to one of the cousins before she turned into a witch' theory.