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Sumeragi · 2012-01-01, 10:02

First, haven't you pretty much expanded definition of J-Pop to include pretty much most of the Japanese music industry from the past 30 years? Given that what we consider J-Pop is centered on the past 10 years and limited to pop, I don't really see how your argument has much merit when we could also go into Korea's music past and come up with the same kind of genre mashing (admittedly, the breakout started in 1992 with Seo Tai-ji & Boys).

Second, certainly you don't know about the Hongdae area, the Korean center of indie music which serves as the other to the mass industrial production which you consider to be a carbon copy of the idol production? Exactly why do you think the entire Korean music industry will be the same when there are vibrant alternatives?

Third, we've been focusing on why K-Pop has more international appeal to J-Pop. We can argue all day about whether some music is shallow, copied, etc, but that ultimately isn't the main topic: rather, we're focusing on why it's difficult to find such a wide appeal of J-Pop on the world stage

Fourth, scientifically? Just when has science had any say in defining the popularity of a certain kind of entertainment genre?

Basically, you're looking only at a few glimpses of the Korean music industry and slapping on the same label of the international failure that was the J-Pop industry with its insular view of the music scene and its relatively laid back stance to the entire thing.

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Sumeragi Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dai Korai Teikoku	First, haven't you pretty much expanded definition of J-Pop to include pretty much most of the Japanese music industry from the past 30 years? Given that what we consider J-Pop is centered on the past 10 years and limited to pop, I don't really see how your argument has much merit when we could also go into Korea's music past and come up with the same kind of genre mashing (admittedly, the breakout started in 1992 with Seo Tai-ji & Boys). Second, certainly you don't know about the Hongdae area, the Korean center of indie music which serves as the other to the mass industrial production which you consider to be a carbon copy of the idol production? Exactly why do you think the entire Korean music industry will be the same when there are vibrant alternatives? Third, we've been focusing on why K-Pop has more international appeal to J-Pop. We can argue all day about whether some music is shallow, copied, etc, but that ultimately isn't the main topic: rather, we're focusing on why it's difficult to find such a wide appeal of J-Pop on the world stage Fourth, scientifically? Just when has science had any say in defining the popularity of a certain kind of entertainment genre? Basically, you're looking only at a few glimpses of the Korean music industry and slapping on the same label of the international failure that was the J-Pop industry with its insular view of the music scene and its relatively laid back stance to the entire thing.