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Originally Posted by mrShady
Does that really count?
Luffy was on death's door only fighting to save Ace. He wasn't fighting to beat them just to get past them.
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Of course it does. Ivankov's hormone injections kept him going beyond his limits, so him being on death's door is a moot point. Luffy was outclassed in the war and he knew that going in. Alongside the admirals and shichibukai, Ivankov also specifically mentioned the VAs as powerful adversaries to warn Luffy of the impending danger to come. Circumstances aside, Luffy got owned.