Thread: Genshin Impact
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Old 2021-09-13, 05:55   Link #486
Klashikari
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Originally Posted by Marcus H. View Post
Banner blindness will only affect Day 1 rollers. Each featured banner lasts three weeks. In addition, there's no incentive to rolling as soon as the banner hits. Most reasonable people would just delay their rolls when in doubt. Also I do not want to promote conspiracy theories about Mihoyo's "leaker hunt decree" as a sign of greed; they are simply doing what they are entitled to do as a company with a valuable piece of intellectual property.
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Originally Posted by relentlessflame View Post
I definitely have seen gacha games that rely on banner blindness (GBF is a great example), but the banner cycle in this game is so slow and predictable so far that I doubt that's an essential driving factor that has a huge impact on revenue. Popular characters will still be popular, even if announced well in advance, as we see right now with Raiden Shogun (and despite the mixed messages about her place in the meta), and those that surround anticipated characters suffer somewhat, but the game still benefits from building hype about new characters a lot more than they would by not building hype -- as we see with both the Shogun and Ayaka.
I think there are much more nuances when it comes to banner blindness. Case in point: Eula. I don't know about you, but a lot of people were considering rolling on Venti or Tartagli rerun until Eula's leaks were spreading like wildfire, which made people shift decision in some case.
Ayaka and Raiden cases were not the norm because the former was known ever since CBT while the latter was more or less hyped due to her status/role in the story. In comparison, completely new characters like Eula and Yanfei cannot be predicted whatsoever. Without those leaks, it was very likely that some F2P/light spenders could have indulged themselves in the reruns then get caught offguard by the completely new characters.

Of course, there will be always new characters at some point, but if you know their appearance/lore/kit weeks/months in advance, it is much easier to make a decision regarding the ongoing banners, so less likely to make a purchase. They can actually decide which banner to skip depending on the order and expected amount of free primogems obtained during that period. That's exactly why Leaks in gacha are really bad for business because while whales will most likely spend money every time there is a new banner, it isn't exactly sustainable. Rather, managing to incite F2P/low spenders/dolphin to open their wallet at crucial times is definitely something most companies would like to succeed for obvious reasons. And obviously, converting them into dolphin or whales is also an interesting prospect.
Reruns are not exactly the most predictable thing either (Tartaglia being the very first rerun character was the weirdiest decision they could make if you ask me), so it isn't just the identity of new characters that can shift sales. It is also certain timing too. Just look how long it took for Tartaglia compared to Ganyu. At some point, you can't exactly predict when reruns of more recent characters like Hu Tao or Eula will happen since MHY has been a bit inconsistent when it comes to banner order and implementation of new characters.
Consider the opposite example of Eula's case: what would happen if people know exactly when Hu Tao will be rerun slightly before Yoimiya's banner? They could make a better decision if they should roll on Yoimiya's banner since "Hu tao rerun might be really late considering there are still Albedo, Ganyu and Xiao". But that reasoning can be completely ignored if leaks about the future banners are known. Now, that person can work on a potential primo roadmap and decide if they can afford rolling on Yoimiya or should simply wait for Hu Tao who might come out right after Kokomi. Banner blindness doesn't only affect character assessment but also decision based on whether they should wait for the rerun or roll for the ongoing banner.


As for Honkai, I believe people in this thead do not have the full picture.
Honkai doesn't really have any enforcement against leaks simply because their rotation has been solely relying on 1 non farmable S-rank valkyrie (equivalent to Genshin 5*) every even patches, and a 1 A-rank valkyrie (4* character) every odd patches. I will spare you the details, especially given the weird changes the game will get in 5.2, but the bottomline is that Honkai community openly talk about beta content because there is absolutely no NDA going on. If anything, the devs take note of the feedbacks so there is like 3 beta relases for a given patch in average. The difference is that Honkai is far less forgiving for F2P since Honkai is far more competitive than Genshin when it comes to end game. So from my perspective, they don't really have issues with information going out because the business model is already more enclined towards dolphins and whales.
In comparison, Genshin follows mobage gacha standards regarding new content information, so they focus on the hype and other tricks for their business model.

That being said, I believe Mihoyo has been quite unabashed when it comes to said business model. Characters announcement have been done only because leaks were quite persistent thanks to clout chasers (You can't deny leakers agenda in Genshin cases considering the blatant drip tactics + obvious advertisement to their kofi/patreon and whatnot). Additionally, not only Raiden was released really early plot wise, but topup bonus were reset on patch release whereas anniversary rewards are scheduled "normally".
As such, it is hard not to conclude that they are trying their best to control the hype at their advantage when it comes to high profile characters, even if it means that some characters like Yoimiya get revealed too early for their own good. That and giving more reasons to spend money (be it because of earlier bonus or late freebies).


Honestly, this whole mess is an ugly and plain shade of grey like Sheba stated. There isn't really any good guy in that conflict, although when you look at their agenda, I frankly think the leakers were much worse than Mhy. Leaking the entire content of 2.0 after Mhy sudden teaser announcement for Ayaka and Yoimiya was the most childish and asinine thing to do. If you add their behaviour after the early leak of Eula patch by "Big Boss", there is no doubt they are vultures as well. And now, when you consider that Honey revenues from their genshin website amounted to 5 digits in USD per month, I can imagine the other leakers got a very nice "exposure money" too.
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