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Old 2009-03-22, 04:11   Link #607
Darknemo2000
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Then in what language you read him? In Greek? I did read him in ancient Greek (as this language is a must to study in my univ) but to tell the truth, it was better to read it in Lithuanian or English because some words are pretty hard to remember.

Platonic love is un-imaginable without the basis of simple physical love. Plato himself stated that in the Fest. You are talking about final result of non-physical love, but the result is impossible to be attained without the physical means so talking about it as singular basis apart of its process is simply useless. It's like talking that wheels or engine is not a part of the races and just a result who is the first is. Plato never separated the physical love from his love ideal, because the basis of this ideal is non-idealistic, but otherwise it would be impossible to achieve. The final result will always be partly based on physical love. You just cannot separate the physical love and platonic love as simply platonic love has to have physical love, and the result will always have the recognition of ideas through physical means.

Platonic love as such cannot exist - it has to be created in gradual process of eidos recognition and this goes through physical means.

In other words you cannot talk about separation of physical and non-physical love as a result simply because there would be no result without its creation (thus physical relationship).

So, if you are saying the love between Horo and Lawrence is platonic, then in a true sense of what platonic means, and not its misunderstand - you are saying that Horo and Lawrence did have a close physical relationship, but now are able to be without it because they started to see the eidos behind their physical closure.

Which is of course not true since Horo and Lawrence didn't have had physically close relationship so far, thus you cannot call their love platonic at all.
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