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Originally Posted by Kudryavka

Its not that we dont get that. Its that the audience is expected to project themselves onto these boys with such lack of love knowledge which, considering the audience is sexually attracted to at least some of the girls, is really annoying. They dont wanna see the main character cry and whine when his friend rubs her big breasts on his head, they wanna see him grope her!

Are you sure about that?

One thing that stands out to me about the portrayal of "moe girls" in anime is how a lot of it really is one big tease.

I'm a big fan of yuri, and I'm struck by how often a popular yuri pairing never moves beyond the hint/implied stage. How such pairings often remain ambiguous: Are they "just friends" or are they more? The yuri anime often gives plenty hints supporting "they're more", but it often (if not typically) falls short of outright confirming this (even with just a kiss, say).

Then, look at how romances tend to be handled in KyoAni shows (such shows tending to be very popular and well-selling). How often do such romances feature an actual kiss? And if there is a kiss, how often is it "just a dream" or "just an accident"?

If this sort of approach was disliked by most otakus, then why does it continue on so frequently? No, this type of approach is so widespread and commonplace that I can only conclude that it is a popular and well-liked approach amongst otakus (i.e. Japanese hardcore anime fans).

I can only conclude that otakus love to be tantalized and teased.

And maybe that's fine if you put yourself into the right mindset for it, and are willing to be satisfied by something other than a total "payoff".

And you know most teenage boys think about sex way more than that irl. Harem lead guys are almost always some laughably unrealistically holy virgins thatt dont even masturbate.

How do you know that they don't masturbate? I wouldn't assume that they don't masturbate just because they don't show it on camera. I admittedly don't watch North American TV sitcoms all that much, but I don't recall masturbation scenes being all the rage on North American TV either.

Originally Posted by Kudryavka

I agree. But I disagree in thinking that a typical harem show with a bunch of ditzy moe stereotypes gives a hoot about "treating ladies nicely".

I think Chiibi has a point here. I think the male lead in many of these shows are intended to come across as reasonably gentlemanly and respectful of the girls that are interested in them (perhaps because it's hoped/thought that the male viewers will be the same way). And that means not taking advantage of the feelings those girls have for them in quick and shallow ways.