[Kadi]

Le'see...

Originally Posted by Log

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Out of curiosity why do you think the dad's competent. Don't really remember the protog's dad doing well.....anything at all this volume. He's only mentioned in passing a couple times.

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He's a swordsman who thinks how to overcome the deficit in power with summoners without giving up. The only one, apparently. That alone is makes him one of the three most competent adults mentioned. He succeeded in creating such a style, too, and came up with the theory behind that ingenious "ultimate technique", even.

Originally Posted by Log

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Hi now, you forget to add the sword side VC to the list of people that didn't suck. You have to admit that he's impressive to fight against magic head on without precog. Takes a lot of GUTS to do that. Oh and also the girl that Kanae taught.

As for the summoners discrimination thing I think that part's more justified. Being a summoner automatically makes you a national treasure in the country's eyes because of how precious the firepower summoners bring are which I imagine is a ego boast to many and gives them the incentive to look down on people. Not only that but their still teens....... with the potential power to open the gates of hell, call upon otherworldly weapons, gain lightning speed, distort space, revive the dead etc. This probably is just a tip in the iceberg given that summoning is noted to make technology obsolete including nukes so we'll probably be seeing city destroying summoning in the future. Of course teenagers with that kind of power and status would be so arrogant.

Swordsman on the other hand are the opposite. Their a dime and a dozen so nope, no special status is granted. Their very weak in terms of destruction, comparing them to summoners is like comparing a tank and a sword. Worst of all they can't fight back even if they wanted to. No one cares about one or two swordsman dying since their easily replaceable. Summoners on the other hand are a limited resource so if a summoner gets hurt due to swordsmans acting out of line we can safely assume that the swordsman that did the deed would be getting heavy punishment. So yeah sure you can use tactics to take down a summoner. But afterwards? I won't be surprised you face capital punishment (Kanae's probably getting off free now because she hasn't really harmed a summoner yet). Most swordsman probably think that it isn't worth trying to force a point and gave up.

Combine all this together and one can see why summoners consider swordsmans useless. Albeit I admit that the books trying to force it to much and the girls are being to ignorant to the ways of a actual fight.

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Kanae's Nr 2 and 3 didn't completely suck, yeah, but the way the guy is persuaded that he can be good, too, is questionable anyway. "I thought the prez was an exception, but now I've seen another good swordsman. Maybe I can do good, too." is questionable in general and stupid if the "other good swordsman" has the same background as the first. To me, anyway.

And no, the discrimination is not justified. It's too crass. It's like the swordsmen aren't even human. If swordsmen were born differently and everyone was drilled "swordsmen are worthless" from birth, then yes, it would be reasonable. But neither are swordsmen born differently, nor is there such conditioning. There wasn't enough time for such prejudices to root so deeply. Until a few month ago, most of the first year summoners were normal girls (who made some effort to become summoners, yes, but they were still normal).

Actually, right now I'm wondering why anyone not suicidal or desperate would ever agree to become a swordsman, considering how they're treated...

Not to mention that with some thought the general swordsman should be superior to the general summoner in live combat... (summoners who can coolly chant their little spells while a swordsman is whacking away at them are the exception, not the rule)

Originally Posted by Log

*explanation on student council*
Don't see anything wrong here tbh.

Or I'm I being dense here?

Except for the Prez and Vice Prez, who are second years, and the 1st year trainees, the student council is absent. It stands to reason the others are third years and away on internships. It stands to reason the whole student council and not just the presidents is picked on a power-basis, so usually, the WHOLE student council will consist of third years. Who will be away. Who's ever going to do the job they're supposed to do? (If the student council consisted of "the strongest 2nd year students", the fact that the others' absence hasn't been noted and explained yet is a completely new magnitude of writing fail, so I ignored it)

Also, a system where the third years are out of school all the time sounds stupid to me. Just make the school 2 years long and add 1 year of mandatory internships or hands-on training in several areas. But I guess then you'd lose the oh so important "high school lasts 3 years". *sigh*

Yes, maybe everything can be explained, but that something so fundamental has yet to be explained to make sense just screams FAILURE in my eyes.