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Illuyankas, Now it is clear to me that you are either drunk or out of your mind. I said it was possible that those characters can cut anything. Still it is all speculation on my part and your part. As I said before it is up to Oda himself and I am not ruling anything out. Maybe they can or maybe they can't. I said it remains to be seen. "If Mihawk can cut everything?" that still does not make Mihawk the strongest, as I have said before we are not sure if he can cut everything or has some sort of seastone carved into his sword remains to be seen. Whitebeard is the absolute power, the strongest, Mihawk can not defeat him no living being can. I cleared that up for you can you understand now. I ask you again who said Ener can defeat Mihawk? Mihawk has yet to be seen. Like I said before stop bringing this up, You say "IF HE DOES STUFF WE HAVEN'T SEEN YET"He hasn't done it yet. Until he does, we have to assume Ener > Mihawk. " This is all speculation just because Mihawk has not done something you have not seen is because he did not get the chance to. This is very unfair to Mihawk and his abilities, The battle between the seen(Ener) and unseen(Mihawk) should not be debated. Period.
Now Illuyankas, you are just a fanboy of devil fruit users. How in the hell can Ener Defeat The Strongest man ever in One Piece and Defeat the current most powerful man in the world. They are considered the most powerful in the world for a reason have you forgotten that. Just because a Gold Roger did not use a Devil fruit does not mean a Logia character can defeat him. Have you ever heard of Raw Talent? Talent so raw that they surpass even Devil fruit powers like Speed, Strength, Endurance. These are the most powerful characters in One Piece as said by Oda himself now I know you need to start over with those comments. Gold Roger and Whitebeard will smash Logia fruit users.
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You are sounding more and more idiotic with every post. I don't know how you do it, especially when you insult me to my face, then state almost exactly what I've said, and AGREE WITH ME ON ALMOST EVERY POINT. Almost.
First, YOU are sure Mihawk can cut everything, as it was the basis of your argument that Mihawk could defeat Ener easily. You repeated it over and over, in almost every post. To say that he couldn't now just to try to defend your current point, well, shows you for the poor debator you are.
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We KNOW Whitebeard's the strongest.
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However, Whitebeard is undisputedly the Strongest.
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Don't tell me something I have stated repeatedly has been 'cleared up for me'.
Third, We know that Roger and Whitebeard can beat logia users. We don't know how they do it, or if anyone else can. So, we can assume that no-one else can.
Fourth, this topic is a debate about battles between characters we don't know enough about, and if you don't think we should debate it, then GTFO. Why are you even in a debate forum anyway, if you think we shouldn't debate?
Fifth, I am making suppositions - Oh wait. I'll speak slower, and in idiot talk, so you can understand...
"I know we don't know yet, but we are making L-O-G-I-C-A-L G-U-E-S-S-E-S about it for A-M-U-S-E-M-E-N-T P-U-R-P-O-S-E-S. None of this is real. All of it is speculation. All you have said is mis-understanding my statements - that means G-E-T-T-I-N-G T-H-E-M W-R-O-N-G. I'll summarise them for you!
Whitebeard is the hardest. He can hurt logia users.
Have we seen anyone else hurt logia users? No.
Do we know how Whitebeard hurts logia users? No.
Could Whitebeard be the only person who can hurt logia users? Very likely.
Are we SURE he is the only one? No.
Is the fact we could be wrong very obvious? YES.
This is called logic. L-O-G-I-C. Adults use it when we debate, like in this forum. See? Now you know."
I hope you understand now. If I'd known I was speaking to someone so stupid, I would have done this from the start. Go back to school and learn to speak English, then try to talk with the grownups, OK? OK.