[wingdarkness]

Originally Posted by ElecNinja

Yeah, but a General in Iraq WON'T have some personal agenda as the sole reason for fighting.

My point is from the soldiers' perspective...It doesn't matter whether it be a personal agenda or some such other...All the soldiers know is that they are fighting a battle heavily based upon the instructions of their leader and he's nowhere to be found...While waiting for that planned out battle instruction they are dying and being overwhelmed by the opposition...

But, the whole point of that was to say that his actions to save his sister aren't selfish and actually practical. Because Nunully is his reason for fighting. Just as the Independence of the US was the reason for Washington to fight.

You can't sweepingly compare a human life to the liberation of an entire society...By your comparison if Zero were Washington during this time he would STILL leave his fighting force to save his sister and in this case the US would fail to get independence because he chose his sis over the goal of liberating the US... You see how re-shaping that analogy still doesn't work? Lulu isn't just some rouge solider or department head, he's the top of the pyrimid...Without his instructions and strategies to command his men they cannot win, and as exhibited by the episode it is a complete catastrophe for them not to get his instructions and//or strategic aid...

They why are you criticizing his actions? He should do something better. But what? You don't have the answer and yet you are asking that he think of something better than what he did. And besides it's going to be the same scenario even if he used his geass on someone to make him the leader. People are still going to say, "WTF, he abandoned us. But at least ????? is in charge." But who's going to follow Zero anymore? His future would have been lost then.

4tran put it well in the other thread,

Originally Posted by 4tran

There were a lot of things that Lelouch could have done to make the situation more favorable. To start with, he could have tried to delegate responsibility by raising a tactical commander and an operational commander so that the entire movement wouldn't fall apart in his absence.

These are my sentiments exactly, not that 4tran would say he agreed with me, lol...

He did NOTHING! How cold is he to sell out an entire society based on the principles inwhich his sis was the inspiration? Heck yeah better IS better, because "something better" is the difference between night and day if "better" means giving those guys a fighting chance as opposed to basically no chance...Lulu is too smart not to have any contingencies planned...He simply snapped once his sister was taken and he lost all association with the plan he created because of his sister...That's not good leadership at all...He took on the mantle of Zero, he should own up to it...

As a human being, which Zero still is, emotions cloud judgment. It's something that happens quite a lot of times. Therefore, if someone very precious to you was kidnapped. Wouldn't you instantly go find that person despite the circumstances?

To continue, are you that cold? You criticize him for his actions there, but are you that different that you would do something different? Imagine the emotions that are coursing through Zero's mind. Can you make a sound, logical decision with those emotions that overwhelm you?

This is not a question of emotions (Although Zero has been shown many times to make logical or sound decisions under diress)...I do sympathize with his situation, but because he totally snapped and did nothing to help his followers he failed as a leader which was my original point...He turned his back on his supporters with no realization of how they would die fighting for his beliefs and the beliefs he inspired in them...Now the show isn't over and I suspect they'll pull something outta their backsides to not make it a total loss for team Zero, but as of now his lack of any action besides searching for his sis bothered me...Hell I would have Gaessed Suzaku and told him to help my soldiers if it came down to that...This is indeed a case where something would have ben better than nothing...