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(and, to be fair, very few people here could've said they recognize this is not a mystery before EP8 was out - I'm not even sure you, Klash and Aura, are part of them, but feel free to correct me).
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I was calling that this wasn't a mystery since EP5, once it became clear that the mystery-advocates were BAD GUYS.
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The question is then, are we at fault for not understanding Umineko, or is Umineko at fault for misleading us? If we subscribe to the former position, we should ask another question: does the shift from themes of mystery and fantasy to anti-mystery and anti-fantasy hold literary value, or should Umineko have remained a mystery novel?
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We were told this was an anti-mystery VS anti-fantasy story since like atleast EP4. Really, there's no goddamn excuse in my opinion.