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Old 2009-07-06, 12:00   Link #246
maximilianjenus
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Originally Posted by confused_kitsune View Post
Of course not; but there could always be a scenarios like this: X person is in the boat for various reasons, Y person from the island dies, then X person steps on the island. Technically, there are 17 people on the island, but there is one more than in the previous games.
The "no more than 17 people " now makes even more sense not as a trap used by beato to force batler to think only that someone taking kinzo's place was the culprit, just to later crush his theories easily. But also as a fact that people can get on the island once the twilights starts, something like what cronotrig mentioned about the original japanese text.

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Originally Posted by chronotrig View Post
Just something to point out about the Japanese here...and also the English, although it doesn't translate perfectly.

This '18th person X' doesn't have to be a single, specific person. By the strictest definition, all this line means is that there will never be 18 people on the island at any point in time. In other words, there's no one you could call 'the 18th person on the island' because there are only 17 there.

In other words, if someone has died or left the island, someone else could then enter the island and the red wouldn't be violated, even if the 17 people we know were all on the island to start with (i.e. no Kanon=Shannon theory is needed).

Also, bern's playing around with the pieces might mean that there is a miracle that someone survives the storm and lands on rokkenjima.
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