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Old 2010-07-23, 00:12   Link #235
Hiking_Bear
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Originally Posted by james0246 View Post
I already said it could point to the MS. If the MS has all the same abilities across all the Uchiha, then it wouldn't matter if the eyes in Tobi's head were Obito's, Madara's, Shisui's, Fugaku's, etc.
The key word there is IF. It doesn't actually point to a common time/space warping MS jutsu until there is one.



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Where? Your last post in this thread briefly mentioned Zetsu as being relevant, but you did not argue that Zetsu created Tobi from Obito.
Here and Here. And you replied to both. Did you change your mind in the interim? It's hard to believe, given the sardonicism contained in that first response.

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Then I'm speculating that Zetsu is hundreds of years old.
Maybe, but what are you basing it on? And how is it related to Tobi's identity? Get thee to the Zetsu thread.

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Or maybe it is.
This is where I say "or maybe it is" and then you'll say "or maybe it isn't" and then I'll say "Aha! I agree"

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What? Both of Tobi's arms are equally fake and both have been destroyed at separate times in the series (Torune recently and Minato 16 years previous), and in both instance the arm falls off with a plop and a gooey mess. Consequently, arguing about Obito's potentially missing right arm as being some sort of connection to Tobi's right arm is a bit bunkus (additionally, edo tensei revivies the entire body, not just pieces, and Zetsu's clone technique seems to make an entire body).
We don't know that the whole body is fake. We know only that Tobi's right arm and left hand were artificial. The other physical features we have to go by are the striations on the right side of Tobi's face and his Sharingan. The descriptors still point to Obito. We could talk about Edo Tensei as a candidate, but you know well enough that it doesn't fit with the depiction of how Tobi regenerated his arm. And Tobi being a full Zetsu clone leaves Zetsu as being responsible for a Sharingan, summoning the 9-tails, and using a time/space technique.

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I apologize. I meant to imply that just by comparing their names, your argument leads to the conlusion that Nagato and Naruto were the same person just as easily as Obito and Tobi. That is the connection I meant to imply, but I obviously failed.
My argument leads to the conclusion of a connection of the identities of Naruto and Nagato - which there was (the Gutsy ninja). No need to apologize for enhancing my argument.

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The editorial comment was not, or at least I did not read it as, an actual question (from the author) as to the identity of the mysterious masked man, rather it reflected the tension that Minato and Kushina felt (must the same as the editorial comments in the past predicting the deaths of Naruto or Sasuke were not meant to be taken literally, but rather as comments to emphasize mood, etc).
The messages or questions at the beginning and ends of the chapter are from the author directed at the audience. It's not something Kishimoto invented. It's been around since the era of movie serials or Rocky and Bullwinkle at least.
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