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Old 2012-05-13, 18:58   Link #8235
Randrak42
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Join Date: Jun 2011
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Originally Posted by Qilin View Post
Huh. You got me there.


To clarify, when I said that her punishment was excessive, I was talking about my initial emotional response to it. I can understand that everyone else reacted in a similar fashion, hence my mistake.

But I realized that it was their guild's way of doing things. I'm sure everyone in that guild had already come to accept the guild's philosophy and culture, so they should already know the consequences that go with failure. If they were in the guild against their will it would be an entirely different matter, but I see no signs of that being the case as of yet. As such, they already have their own set off rules to follow, so they don't need some other guild muscling in and telling them how they should do things. Compare this with people of different religions trying to convert each other.

Let's look at it this way, Sabertooth is considered to be the strongest guild, so its pride mandates that it should maintain this title indefinitely. From a practical standpoint, Yukino's punishment serves as a deterrent for anyone who should fail to meet the guild's expectations. It's a primitive tactic, but often an effective one.

Don't forget that Sting is part of the guild's "strongest five", so he would obviously deserve preferential treatment over Yukino, who is just a replacement member, especially given the guild's Darwinist ideals. Also, the main reason for Yukino's punishment was not because she lost, but rather because she gambled her life and still lost. Those are two different things.
As was said before, the problem people have with Yukino getting kicked out isn't that she was kicked out, but the humiliation they made her go through.

Each guild has their own laws, it is perfectly fine. If she had just received a gkick for losing I wouldn't bat and eyelash, hell I've been and know of plenty of sports teams that do that...you fail and your out and that's how they keep the teams strong (supposedly).

But the big problem lays in the pure humiliation they put her through, it's against human rights and just...basic decency. No matter the reason, making the girl strip like that in front of a room full of men, in front of the guild she viewed so highly is just despicable.
And did she really know how the guild really worked? Did she really know that the master was capable of doing that? That the other guild members would standby doing nothing?
Remember that Yukino said she only joined the guild recently. Before joining she likely wouldn't have heard about things like that happening because it's just not something they would show the public (at best she probably would have heard about someone being kicked for failing a mission or something). And since she joined only recently, again, at best she probably only saw someone kicked without the humiliation. Look at the reactions of the so called strongest 5, even they were not pleased with how extreme their master was in dealing with Yukino.
You say she knew what she was getting herself into...but you don't know that for sure. She most likely just viewed Sabertooth as a great and strong guild, idolizing it without knowing how evil (lack of a better word) they can be (some members at least)
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