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Old 2012-01-02, 21:01   Link #26851
jjblue1
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Originally Posted by RedKey View Post
If that's the case, I can't imagine any other viable solutions for letting the bomb explode other than the adults quarreling about the 10tons of gold. With guns. And messing somehow with the detonation switch. If Yasu just wanted to have a murder mystery party with her family, she surely wouldn't have turned the switch on. And we can't possibly think of her not knowing about it, since it was explained to her when she solved the epitaph.
Unless of course we assume that the bomb somehow went off on its own exactly at midnight because of malfunctioning, but that's kind of...meh.

I'd really like to hear some theory that involves no one being at fault, as I really wish to believe that what happened on Rokkenjima prime was just an accident.
My favorite is that the Italian submarine didn't just carry the gold but also part of the so called 'final weapon'. Historically speaking the axis too was trying to build a bomb and there was an exchange of material, info and so on between Germany, Japan and Italy.
Since it was a secret project it can be the survivors didn't know what they were carrying and, differently from the gold, they didn't bother removing it from the submarine when it started sinking after they reached Rokkenjima.
Then the mess with the gold happens time goes on and when the Japanese government check the base because Kinzo wants to buy Rokkenjima the submarine is completely sunk.
Nobody thinks it's carrying an incomplete bomb of such power, fishing it up/repairing it, isn't possible/would be too expensive, telling the Italian government to come get its own submarine might lead to explaining why they weren't told about it previously so it's left there...
In 1986 the bad weather and the time that's gone cause the bomb/explosive/whatever to explode.
Radiations might be minor maybe because the bomb work in a different mode than the ones used on Hiroshima and Nagasaki or because since it exploded in the underground base and got buried under it somehow radiations didn't manage to spread or both.

It might also explain why Eva died at such a young age.

BTW Eva reached Kuwadorian because she solved the epitaph short time before the bomb went off and so she found the passage for Kuwadorian.

Battler solved it short after her but took the wrong tunnel. When the bomb went off he tried returning back but, as there were no survivors, he went in shock and escaped from the island. Later he's involved in the car incident with Ikuko.

As for Yasu she was waiting for Eva at Kuwadorian, handed her the ring of the head then tried returning back.
Funnily enough she managed not to cross path with Battler and, out of guilt for having thought up tales in which the whole family was killed, once she sees they're all dead, she fleed and took the identity she had previously prepared as she didn't plan to kill herself after that family conference, just to disappear.
Luckily/unluckily enough she almost run over Battler with 'her' car but he has forgotten everything.

Eva has no idea who blasted the house away but might suspect Rudolf did as he was in serious financial troubles and had tie with shady business. So she decides to hide everything from Ange.

However:
even though it's an historical thing that the Axis was also trying to build a final weapon there's no real hint that's what the submarine was carrying so I guess this can't be used in Umineko (even if it would be more logic than Japanese government leaving Kinzo so much explosive, Kinzo building a self destruction mechanism for his house and Italian government trying to hide gold in Japan).

In an interview it was said:
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One of the things that you can really know from within the story is that „Eva knew something but decided to never to tell Ange about it.“. Based on that many different things have been said in the meta world, and there were also several depictions that hinted at the truth, and it might be a common factor that interpretations on that will diverge. If you start thinking from that point though, even if some small parts are different, you can guess that on this island „a regretable incident happened because of certain actions that those people took“. It’s sufficient if you start thinking further from there. Why was it that Beatrice said so often „It all becomes easier once you accept the witch!“?!
So something regrettable should have happened, something Eva didn't want Ange to know about.
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