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Old 2011-07-30, 13:07   Link #88
Slayerx
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Originally Posted by Lord of Pandemonium
He's not stupid,Ichigo admitted that he didn't really trust Ginjou during training, for his final fullbring. Urahara and Isshin were being secretive. They chose not to tell him anything. Urahara manipulated him, and then turned him into a hollow-shinigami hybrid without his knowledge. His father has been lying to him his entire life. Orihime lied about being attacked, Chad not only tried to cover for Inoue's lie. He omitted being attacked as we;;. and didn't tell Ichigo any of his suspicions regarding Tsukishima's powers. Right now everyone that he should trust and depend on, has been lying to him. It's not so odd that he chose to believe the words of a stranger, especially when he was desperate, powerless, and it seemed as if that stranger was the only one who would tell him anything. Especially when that stranger, seemed to have a common enemy and was the key to getting his powers back.

If you want to blame anyone, blame Urahara for being so smart, that he's stupid. His choices, the ones that he makes to protect people, always end up putting them in harm's way. Blame Ishida for being the worst dad in the mangaverse, despite his being the coolest dad in the mangaverse. Do not blame Ichigo, for being a pawn. That's all he's ever been because of the constant lies, and I don't think he deserves all the criticism that he gets.
no i would say that ichigo is both a hypocrite and and an idiot.
He expects urahara, isshin and his friends not too keep secrets from him? Hypocrisy. what has he been doing since day one? He kept the secret of his powers from his friends and family. Ichigo of all people should understand that sometimes that their are good reasons to keep secrets. Ichigo himself practially said as such himself when he first found out his father had powers. I mean Orihime, Chad and Ishida are just treating Ichigo the same way he treated all his non-superpowered friends and relatives when he had powers.

Ichigo is also an idiot because he he is growing distrustful of people without actually trying to get the truth from them. First Isshin; Ichigo told him that he himself was guilty of lying and thus told his father that he can tell him the truth when he's ready... If ichigo's gonna grow distrustful of his father because he did not tell him the truth after ichigo himself told him he was willing to wait, then ichigo should FIRST confront his father. Confront him and demand to know the truth right here and now and see if he is still tight lipped. He allowed Ginjou to talk him into being distrustful of his father with no actual reasoning and without trying to find out the truth himself... Hell, Isshin might have even had some clues on how Ichigo could regain his powers, but Ichigo would not know because he never even bothered to confront his father

And Second there is Urahara... He has done A LOT to help out ichigo in the past year; sure he was a secretive jerk in his methods, but ichigo can not deny that he's been most helpful. His friends in both SS and the vizards also trust him. He's done a lot more to earn ichigo's trust than complete stranger. At the very least he deserves the benefit of the doubt. I mean Ginjou makes it seems ominous that Karin has been meeting with Urahara, and Ichigo just lets that turn into a seed of distrust without actually trying to talk to either of them and find out what's up. Cause really, if he DID confront them, they would tell him that Karin has been going to Urahara's place to buy anti-ghost gear since handling spirits is her job now... Ichigo would found out that there is NOTHING suspicious actually going on.

This is why ichigo is an idiot... he took the word of a complete stranger and has allowed himself to grow distrustful of those around him without actually investigating the issue himself. If he had just confronted them, he might find that his reasons for distrust are completely unfounded.
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