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Originally Posted by Shining Celebi
Where before he was basically a match for the First with Enma, even as an old man, we now know that the First was actually a jillion times stronger than anything he revealed in that fight. Heck, back then Orochimaru was a top-tier ninja who could paralyze Kakashi with fear from his killing intent alone.
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there is definitely some power level changing going on between these characters, but kishi has done a pretty decent job of covering it up with retcon material imo, starting with the explanation kabuto told deidara about the differences between his and oro's ET which accounts for the 1st and 2nd being weaker than normal. also, don't forget that characters like kakashi kept training and vastly improved after the destruction of konoha arc while orochimaru just stagnated and got sicker with the loss of his arms and techniques and then had to settle on an inferior body (at least compared to the highest level shinobi bodies) he did fight toe to toe with 4tails naruto in that body after after all so he wasnt really weakened story-wise. sasuke just absorbed him at his weakest state.
i do agree that sarutobi was downgraded post timeskip but i was still never under the impression that he was better than minato even back during the first series. and no one ever said he was inferior to the 2nd. its just the 1st who's been blown out of proportion
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Originally Posted by Rurik
But, with Itachi and Sharigan was the use of Genjutsus and How Itachi could had just traped Oro into a Genjutsu and Make him release Edo Tensei, at least, that is one reason on why Oro could had tought Itachi was stronger.
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itachi was always way stronger than orochimaru from the beginning of both character arcs and orochimaru knew this. that is why he hunted a younger weaker sasuke. it was the only way he could compete with itachi. itachi's training as a child shocked an adult orochimaru. itachi was just on another level completely