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Old 2012-09-15, 01:58   Link #10534
Sol Falling
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There are times in the story when a third person omniscient perspective pops up. Like for example the time when Kumagawa was gonna die. Although the tone of voice doesn't really rule out the possibility of some actual character narrating, for now I would actually lean towards the "Ajimu is all-powerful and all-knowing" narrator being in the third person.



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Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon View Post
Not at all, it's her Skills. Presumably she has some method of acquiring them, in the same way Medaka does. That's why we used to think she was Medaka's future self or something like that.
What a "Not Equal" is remains completely undefined; the term has been used to describe both beings that are "parts" of Ajimu, (the candidates), beings that have Skills granted to them by Ajimu (Aka), and "beings that transcend humanity" (so far only Ajimu and Hanten).
Regardless of whether or not there are other Not Equals as powerful as Ajimu, one has to question why she simply can't, for example, use her Teleportation Skill to warp Iihiko into deep space and her Gravity Control Skill to crush him into a black hole. He might recover from that relatively quickly depending on how powerful he is, but his level of power should have nothing to do with how long Ajimu can stall him for; the Skill she has that we already know about should be more than enough to occupy him for longer than 15 seconds.
Only thing I can think of is if he's immune to all her Skills somehow, but that raises an interesting question:
If Ajimu's entire character drama prior to the ending of her arc was about "trying to find something impossible", and assuming she is omniscient as the narration claims she is, why hasn't she tried to defeat Iihiko before now, assuming she cannot, in fact, beat him?
Welp, although I don't completely agree about the concept of Not Equals being undefined, here's the background for Ajimu's accumulation of skills, anyway. Basically, it does seem to be directly connected to her search for impossibilities.
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The way that Ajimu speaks in this quote, it clearly implies that there are certain tasks or certain periods of time where Ajimu believes/experiences that something is impossible for her. It's only sometime afterwards that somehow, seemingly effortlessly, Ajimu discovers that the previously impossible task is now simple and easy for her (no doubt probably because she unexpectedly generated a specific skill for it). The point is that Ajimu's "all-powerful" status doesn't really imply that she's completely undefeatable right now. Rather that, due to her Not Equals nature, it is inevitable that she will eventually overcome any fictional impossibility.

As for Ajimu's omniscience, the manga pretty much already specifically said that Ajimu doesn't use it. It would be like flipping through a manga straight to the answer of a mystery. Which, since Ajimu knows Medaka Box is a manga, of course she would be able to do. But she chooses not to because she wants to actually feel involved in her life and the story.

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Originally Posted by Wolfenstein View Post
Actually, you're thinking of it backwards:

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Ajimu said Medaka could do it, and that she herself couldn't.

So, yea. Bullshit.

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I would say that saying it's simply because she is a Not-Equal is rather premature. Maybe it's just her number of abilities. After all, she has more than billions, Hanten has just one. A very special one, but just one that we know of.

And if that was so, saying she is all-powerful is equally just as bullshit, since if she is not above everyone else, then by definition she is not all-powerful.

So, if we take the narrator's words at face value, the inclusion of this demon guy is, well, just plain illogical and if she can blink that guy out easily, just a double-edged sword.
Ajimu's power is not really a question of her abilities themselves. Clearly her abilities are a collection of something she built up, not something static or something she always had from the beginning, so the real question is what is it about Ajimu that makes it capable for her to gain so many abilities. It's not like Ajimu obtained her abilities the same way Medaka did, copying others' after she observed or heard about them being used; rather, all (or nearly all) of Ajimu's abilities seem to be "natural" abilities that she awakened over the course of searching for impossibilities. Actually, precisely because Ajimu only has a finite/specific number of abilities, that implies that it can't be just the number of abilities which makes Ajimu "All-powerful" (otherwise, anybody with hypothetically more abilities than Ajimu would be more powerful than her). It's specifically Ajimu's characteristic of being able to gain that many abilities (and keep gaining them, even now) which suggests Ajimu's limitless potential and true omnipotent status.

Ajimu is All-powerful in that there is nothing which is impossible for her (more specifically, nothing which will stay impossible for her). However, that does not rule out the possibility of Ajimu being momentarily challenged by forces beyond what she had ever even remotely encountered before.

Are we actually even supposed to be scared by Iihiko? I dunno. There isn't even any guarantee right now that he is actually hostile or a threat to Medaka's party. For one thing, after all, supposedly Hanten has at least successfully containing /restraining Iihiko after all for what must've been many years. What I think Iihiko's unstoppable portrayal is really supposed to represent is just to give us an awareness of Medaka Box's universe and cosmology--that yes, there are incredible beings out there who might be equal to the Not Equals; that they might even be their counterparts or opposites, and are the main concern of the Shiranui.
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