I will simply take the "agree to disagree" part, although few points will be answered for clarification sake, not reigniting the debate.
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on the bolded part: where was it ever stated that she's playing along with Rikka's chunni. Being the Overseer priestess whatnot might be how Rikka sees her but never was it reflected in Touka's mind. Never has she tried to do anything chuuni, in fact in her words "what good would it do to encourage chuuni" (or something to that effect) Don't see where you ever got the idea she's playing along rikka's chuuni like a role she gladly accepted to get closer. It's all in Rikka's mind.
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The fact she doesn't see the point of encouraging such behaviour doesn't mean she outirght didn't want to try that first, and it is exactly because her attempts fails that she most likely is dejected by such option.
Now, I believe most scenes with her ladle are actually quite obvious in such pattern: she could always end any of Rikka's chuuni fight on the spot, but generally let her go by her own terms (the most noticeable part is the first fight due to chimera): instead of confronting Rikka with her chuuni and reality like she did in ep8, she tags along. Heck if she was really going not to take part of it and stopping Rikka doing such things, she would have made sure nothing of that kind can be done (removing the calculator, disposing of the rope, Rikka's stuff etc)
This also explains Touka's speech episode 8: having Rikka still acting chuuni even after seeing the harsh truth (old house is gone) made Touka give up the chuuni pretense, uses "conventional physical punishment" and asks Rikka what the latter wants to be finally satified. That is a huge indication her family (at least Touka) tried some compromise, but it didn't work in the end.
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on the bolded part, REALLY? when has psychological defense mechanisms ever been a rational "doing it on purpose" kind of thing, especially when it's associated with a heavy trauma like what Rikka suffered. You and I we probably have countless def. mechanisms we don't know about, might be as small as a small tick, or stammering when in pressure situation, usually unknown to the person involved,often just put aside as nothing more than quirks, when not too disruptive. IN FACT defense mechanisms are good in the sense that it is the minds way of coping with possible unbearable pressure, instead of breaking down.
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There are 2 mechanism behind Rikka's trauma: the first one, inconscious, is the one that made her see "something" on that day, which lead to the Horizon subject.
The second one is the chuunibyou behaviour. The reason why I called the later done on purpose is because too many things require her own will for doing that: she was shown keeping a certain degree of comprehension of the real world, as well as a conscious attempt to stay on her setup (the fact she stopped calling Touka "Priestess" at some point pretty much indicate she isn't entirely chuuni in her head).
Some of her compromises also require her own volition in there: using a calculator as a passcode terminal pretty much shows she knows such thing isn't at her disposal, and to make it seemly working with her setup, she needs something else. This is pretty much comparable to Yuuta DFM scene in the park, and suddenly removing all his chuuni attire when a policeman shows up: even if they are playing hardcore sometimes, they know there is an extent they can't really play out without making compromise or realizing it is outright no possible to do that.