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Old 2009-12-05, 12:06   Link #3880
Geekodot
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Originally Posted by chounokoe View Post
But why would someone who is able to plant bombs in an unknown location, maybe the underground, and has therefore complete access to the island and knowledge about the family conference and the individual locations of the people at the end of those days, why would such a person be unknown to the real culprit?
If the bomber had planned to kill everyone with a bomb at the end of the fifth, or if he had planned to destroy the mansion for some reason after the family conference when everyone left (they were supposed to leave that day, remember), and the murderer was someone else with a different agenda working alone and knowing nothing of the bomb plan, then it is possible. The one who planted the bomb and the one who carries out the murders are individuals who know nothing of each others plans.

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It is not like Rokkenjima is a huge island, we know it spans only 2km in length and therefore maybe 1km to the sides. It's not like two parties planning the demise of a family through an almost apocalyptic scenario could work alongside each other, in the same location, without ever noticing each other. At least it is hardly believable.
Well, the one who plants the bomb might notice the murders and wanting to remove the bomb again, but is killed while he tries or something quite early in the games, or killed randomly at the first twilight. There is NO REASON for the murderer to know that there was a bomb there and perfectly believable that the murderer didn't know.

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If there was someone planting bombs among the first victims, it is very much possible that the culprit knew about them, therefore it would be going along with his plan and I still do not see a good enough reason to plant a bomb risking to be killed along with it, if he/she goes through the hassle of killing those people individually.
The bomber could easily be killed randomly at the first twilight right? or for other reasons than the bomb itself. There is no reason for the murderer to know about the bomb.
The bomb could be planted to destroy the mansion and not killing themselves. What if the bomber and everyone close to him/her were going to flee to Kuwadorian?

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If a bomb was part of the plan it would have been unneccessay to kill them in such a fashionable manner in the first place...that is why I can still not quite believe in an orchestrated grand scale destruction of the crime scene in the first place...unless that person would know about what is happening in the Meta-world, which would hint the existence of magic and therefore make a bomb feel cheap.
The bomb was obviously not in the killer's plan. The bomb and the killings are done by individuals.

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It is very well hinted that Natsuhi (EP1), Battler (EP2), Nanjo (EP3) and again Battler (EP4) met someone in the mansion at the end of the last day, who then killed them. It could very well always be someone different, unconnected to the murders, but for that the people killed are to randomly picked.
I still just don't see any reason or evidence pointing towards a bomb...but of course if you have a fool proof theory how a bomber and a culprit orchestrating the murders could exist alongside, I'll gladly listen to it.
Natsuhi and Nanjo met someone at the 9th twilight, which is close, but not the end. If everyone dies at the tenth twilight, then all the tenth twilights could be magic scenes, because no witness survives.

Battler in Ep 4 couldn't have met with anyone. He was the only one on the island, and from this, I can conclude that the tenth twilight is a magic scene because he did meet the witch again when it was impossible to do so.

In conclusion, it is very well hinted that what you see 24.00 at the tenth twilight in every game is just a magic scene which makes it not real.
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