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Old 2011-12-14, 15:34   Link #26342
AuraTwilight
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There are this many people who would look at an emotionally fragile, depressed, suicidal girl and think "yes, clearly the best course of action is to show her something incredibly cruel that is her worst nightmare before I try to talk her down from the ledge"?
There's nothing wrong with talking her down first before you show her the truth, but Battler wasn't planning to show her at ALL, and told her that the truth wasn't important.

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It's not like Battler was trolling her either. He gave her the key to the diary, said up front that the purpose of his game was to convey a message to her (to wit: the world doesn't suck, you don't need to kill yourself) rather than to show the truth, and told her she'd eventually have the choice whether to use the key or not after she heard him out. He confirmed, while not in front of Ange, that he intended to respect her decision on that matter. The fact that Ange misinterpreted his intentions as trolling is not his fault, and neither is the fact that Bernkastel sabotaged all of his work before he could finish.
He also said that the Happy Halloween Santa Kinzo Fun World was the Truth, which was a lie. And refused to let her know the truth when she asked and was no longer interested in playing.

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First thing to consider: technically Ange IS a child.
No, she's not. She is an adult. It doesn't matter what the law says, if the law says that 30 year olds are children, it wouldn't be true.

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She would still be without her family, whom she loved, she would still be with Eva (and knowing the truth doesn't mean she would get along with her) and she would still be bullied by her classmates who probably accuse her to be the daughter of two murderers or, alternatively, the niece of a murderer.
Actually, this is incorrect. The entire reason their relationship didn't work was because Ange accused Eva of taking her family away from her. If that isn't true, they should be fine. And if they get along, Eva won't send Ange off to a boarding school like a prison and have paid guards to make sure she never makes friends and stuff.

And most importantly, once Ange is forced to face the facts about what really happened, she'll be able to MOVE ON and try and find new reasons to be happy, instead of clinging to a hopeless past. She'll be able to love Eva without worrying that she'll forget her mother or somesuch thing.

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Personally I find more than understandable how Eva didn't want to tell Ange the truth (if the truth was 'your parents killed everyone'), not while she was/is a child.
I would have found morally correct if she had given her the chance to know the truth once she were to become of major age.
Eva however might have made a mistake in her judgement and thought that Ange would have preferred to continue accuse her than to know that her parents were murderers. Or she might have thought at that point Ange wouldn't believe her anymore.
I can agree here. Even if Eva was technically in the wrong, she was extremely commendable.

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Let's move to Battler.
He PROMISED to tell Ange the truth. After he finished telling her what he wanted to tell her.
She throws a childish temper tantrum, refuses to listen what doesn't match with her ideas and in the end decides to slam her head against the truth the hard way. Note that although Ange survived to it, in the beginning the blow was pretty big.
Let's not forget that Battler BROKE this promise. And was even lying to Ange during the whole game.
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