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Old 2012-08-31, 17:40   Link #30279
Wanderer
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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Originally Posted by Jan-Poo View Post
As I said you don't understand at all what circular logic means. Making assumptions is not circular logic.
It is when your audience doesn't accept your assumption. In this case it's your assumption that things are "simply as presented" in Umineko which I don't accept.

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Originally Posted by Jan-Poo View Post
In the end we can agree that your reasonings are devoid of any valid logic.
No, we can't. You should look up what it means for logic to be considered "valid" and how it relates to circular reasoning.

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Originally Posted by Judoh View Post
This was revealed before he met Yukari also, just after the part I quoted. Touya mentions it in his narration in the chapter "ikuko touya" and says "he rudely theorized that she hit him at first, but her front bumper was undamaged, and he dismissed that theory after". At this part of the story, where he mentions it, the accident had only recently happened.
I had forgotten about that. That's interesting because it contradicts what was said in the meeting with Yukari:

Ikuko: "I believe you suspected that I was the one who hit you for quite some time."
Touya: "Hey, I've already apologized for that......"

I wonder when Touya checked the bumper for damage?
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