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Old 2012-04-08, 10:37   Link #210
Humbaba
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Originally Posted by Grey View Post
IIRC, Ilya was used to bring out cursed Grail mud in Fate route. She was an imperfect grail activation because the Servants weren't all dead. Saber and Gil never really died in the Fourth War.

Adding it up and I'm seeing something like: Kiritsugu gets forced into a corner by Kotomine and Gil. Irisviel activates as an incomplete Grail to back him up and suddenly: curse mud and chaos everywhere.
The grail is (atleast since the third HGW) always corrupted with this evil mud. It doesn't really have to do with missing dead servants or something like this but with Ahriman/Angra Mainyu.
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