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Originally Posted by GDB
By definition, the independents are independent and do not belong to a party (beyond those smart enough to join a party so they can vote in primaries, since there's no negative side to being a member of a party).
Methinks you're a bit nuts if you think two parties will split into five (I removed independents for the above stated reason).
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You don't think the two major parties have been bleeding off to other smaller parties over the last few decades?
The independents could very well form their own party as it stands now.
There is already an attempt at making them another party.
It's called the
Independent Voters of America.
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Originally Posted by FDW
I don't really think the independents are actually a single unified group in the "supposed center" like you seem to think. And The Dems are a Conservative Party, in the classical sense.
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I agree on the part that the Democrats are becoming classical conservatives, but that is because
Joe Overton's so called "Window" is moving right in the US.
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Originally Posted by synaesthetic
There are no more truly progressive parties with any degree of penetration in office anymore. The Democratic Party has shifted so far right as of late that it's almost indistinguishable from the Republican Party of not-that-long-ago.
It would be far better if the GOP and Democrats would stop pretending to be different and simply merge to form one party. They even have a catchy name, already made for themselves--the One Percent Party!
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I agree with you.
The paleo-Progressives are long gone.
What passes for progressive today is basically corporate-socialism/corporatism.
The Republicans and Democrats are akin to the old Mensheviks and Bolsheviks. Both were just different wings of the same political party.