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Old 2012-02-05, 04:07   Link #99
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Originally Posted by ronin myael View Post
hmmm... as someone else said in this thread, zoro is not really a samurai. he never claimed to be one and nobody called him as such. but he was trained in a kenjutsu school and his master did seem like the samurai-type. perhaps his family is connected to wano, perhaps not.

meito are basically famous swords, their fame are usually related to the fame of their masters. the swords' fame don't only depend on their achievements but also on the ones who wielded them in life. it could be that kuina's family was a famous clan of swordsmen. but then again, every samurai clan had at least one meito, so it's not that special, well at least for me it doesn't seem so. during world war 2, several of these meito swords were confiscated from the japanese army. many of these swords are now lost. that's probably why the remaining meito in japan are so well-guarded and even deemed too priceless to sell. there are so few left. but unless oda reveals some great history behind wado ichimonji, it would remain as an heirloom sword that holds great sentimental value to zoro, nothing more.

True, Zoro, strictly speaking isn't a samurai. But that is speaking more to the period in history rather than applying definition. Dojos only appears after the Sengoku period, in which the laws forbidden peasants to bare arms and those who do are of nobility and samurai classes. Dojo master themselves are samurais who lost their prestige during that period. The only difference in that periods is that only disciples who are related to the ruling class can carry real katana so by being able to carry a katana Zoro would be viewed as a samurai as far as real life view would go if we are bringing it into discussion.

The question here is that by introducing a Wano country with Samurai system. Oda is essentially telling us that there is an origin where katana and kenjutsu is from.

So unless the samurai in Wano are not using Katana and have drastically different mentality in fighting compare to the real world counterpart, Zoro's dojo must have some connection to it.

As for Wado Ichimonji, why is it hard for you to consider is as a great sword? I agree that meito doesn't mean much in real world, but meito that is classified does.

Wado Ichimonji is not just a meito as you said, it's a meito with a classification associated to it in which Sandai Kitesu was rated TWO classes below it in term of quality.

Oda rated as it amongst 21-O Wazamono, which means that even if it is the worse of its bunch , it is still viewed as the 33rd strongest sword in the OP world. On the other hand, Sadain Kitesu, at best, is rated 84.

Also, Wado Ichimonji has shown to be able to take a blow from Mihawk with his Yoru one of the 12 from Saijo O Wazamono Class, that enough is to show the quality of that sword.

If anything, Sandai Kitesu is just another random meito. It just happen to have a curse history link to it and even then, it was rated below its two previous generation. It says something, when there are three Kitesu in OP world and this is rated as the least of the three.

Whether or not the sword has special ability is beyond the point right now otherwise Funkfreed would be consider a quality sword as well.

I mean really, you have to go there, for me, Sandai Kitestu right now is just a third-rated curse sword and nothing more unless Oda reveals more.
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