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Old 2009-09-16, 07:01   Link #1820
Cipher
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Originally Posted by roriconfan View Post
Faith should be a personal thing. Trying to convince others is not justified, unless they attack you first.

Which comes to me, having faith as a way of life and not that different than philosophy or atheism. I also consider most theists and atheists to be agnostic, even if they don't accept it.

Also, believing in something better than you is not a bad thing. Theists want to improve by walking towards / along God while atheists base all their willpower on the ideals of a man freed of all propaganda and misconception. Both can be seen like the same goal using different approaches. Abuse comes when you try to enforce self-realization to others. You can't stick your hand in someone's mouth and pull out maturity or wisdom. These things take time and are mostly done on a personal level only. Discussion and dialogue can at best help someone but not force him to accept your ways.
What about the discussion of convincing those with faith towards strong agnosticism? No, IMO, unlike "dreamers", its either because the factual strong agnostics have no need or does not see importance for "imaginations". or just a closed mind.
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