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Old 2012-05-16, 11:10   Link #5279
Renall
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Originally Posted by GreyZone View Post
......Sorry, but... Even if you do join us-
There are 17 people.
Does not apply to ep1-4.
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Doesn't really work though, because:

Ushiromiya Battler. I will now...kill you.
And right now, there is no one other than you on this island. The only one alive on this island is you. Nothing outside the island can interfere.
You are all alone on this island. And of course, I am not you. Yet I am here, now, and will kill you.


Someone can not be alive, but still exist. But it is impossible for someone to be alive but not be existing.
You can be alive and not exist, in the context of Umineko, if existence is conditioned on emergent personhood. Kanon never ceases to be alive while Shkanon's body is alive, but he can stop existing. "Dead" as used in the context of Umineko appears to actually mean "not existing" and has no bearing on being biologically alive.

Also Battler could be a dream of Beatrice's she is about to "kill" by waking up, thus being "alive" in-dream but not "existing" as an independent entity.

Dualism just fucks everything up. I can go on all day.
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