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Old 2012-07-27, 22:09   Link #5
Revolutionist
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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon View Post
Personally, I think her goal was influenced by the fact she's an X-Rounder. Have you noticed that ALL of the X-Rounders, except for two exceptions (and even the bigger of the two has his moments) tend to make really bad decisions?

Desil? Total monster, irresponsible with lives and make stupid mistakes like calling off an attack on the Gundam when it was outmatched because he got bored.

Flit? Gets genocidal thoughts due to one incident that sends him over the edge, thoughts he hasn't let go of in fifty years.

The Magicians 8? Way too out of control concerning their feelings--take Mink for example, who kept flipping out every time one of her team got his ass shot down to the point where even her commanding officers couldn't control her.

Ezelcant? Loses kid, starts a huge social darwin-fueled war to create a superior race to inherit the Earth that's just not going to happen because he's only creating people like Flit instead.

Kio? Massive cases of severe recklessness, like chasing after a traitor instead of defending the ship and the base to try and "bring her back"? Getting to the safety of the ship only to dive right back into the situation that nearly got him kidnapped moments earlier? Running off with the Gundam to make one last visit to a friend when his father is trying to rescue him?

Fram? Ignoring the cause of the war for a (admittedly somewhat honorable) course of action to take out someone if he proves himself to be completely irresponsible with his men. Admirable, yes, but still fueled by a less-than-rational mind.

Is it really any wonder that Ezelcant views the X-Rounder thing as a regression in humanity? IIRC, the novel goes further into the aspect.
I had not noticed but it definitely makes sense now that you point it out. Btw, is Zeheart the only X-Rounder who hasn't made any horrible decisions in the show? I suppose repeatedly sparing Asemu when he had him at his mercy could count...

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Originally Posted by Kuroi Hadou View Post
Well, on the subject of X-Rounders being more emotive as a whole, that might have to do with them having those predictions of theirs. Rather than acting analytically in a situation, they're much more intuitive since they don't really need to develop the skills necessary to think ahead when their powers do it for them.

Bringing it back to the topic at hand, Fram acted pretty emotionally when she had that vision of Zeheart dying, and from the conversation with the man afterwards her original goal for being there (testing Zeheart) was over. More likely than not, she was a bit lost as to what to do next, since the Vagan cause (as Vagan believes it to be, not what Ezelcant's plan really is) seemed like a backburner concern for her next to discerning for herself whether or not her brother died for nothing.

Yeah, she called out Kio on how she believed his plan was wasting the sacrifices that had already been made so far, but chances are she was talking specifically about her brother, who sacrificed himself for Zeheart's cause, and now she seems ready to do the same. Which is a bit of a shame, given how much talent she has, but at least Zeheart isn't about to use her like Desil used Yurin. Of course, I guess it's better than her stepping into the battlefield without any clue as to why she's fighting.
Zeheart's cause now that I think about is the real Vagan cause, in fact he's the only one really fighting for the common Vagan, even if he's put all his faith on Ezelcant and refuses to believe the truth about plan Eden. IIRC Dole said he was going to believe in Zeheart's cause so now that Fram has chosen to beleive in that too and claims to have understood Dole then I suppose she's fighting for something other than herself, which is going to make her a tough enemy down the road. We already saw snippets of that with Kio, although I can't really tell if that was mostly due to her powers or Kio still being a noobie.
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