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Originally Posted by Vexx
I'm not sure why the authors being the same or different is relative here.... the discussion is over character archetypes. Can Haruhi be considered a derivative of the "tsundere" archetype? She has many elements of the "violent but cute and secretly cuddly" type but she has her own features that may be unique.
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Haruhi is a tsundere, she's just a rare case because her dere% is far lower than the usual tsundere character.
Average tsunderes have a good balance of tsun and dere (70/30, 50/50, 40/60, etc.), Haruhi, on the other hand, is more like 90% tsun / 10% dere. As a result, some people might not recognize her dere as dere. But even though her dere is rare, as long as it's
there, Haruhi counts as a tsundere.
(In fact, some people probably like Haruhi because she has the 90/10 mix. It makes her dere all the more significant and, er, valuable?)