2013-09-27, 20:22
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Originally Posted by Shoutmon911
Yeah, i thought that same thing. If this kingsley guy is a clone, whats to say that it wasn't this clone who took the stabbing. But to me it seems unlikley. I saw a picture scene of ATE ep 2 where lelouch/kingsley is with suzaku and suzaku does not seem really happy to see him. In fact suzaku looks furious, thus, it means kingsley probably isnt even a clone. Suzaku doesnt like the idea of working with him. If suzaku is that angry with kingsley he must know that it really is a brain washed lelouch because at that point nobody hated lelouch as much as him.
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Originally Posted by Xander
I guess that's an interesting...extrapolation about their dynamics, at least in so far as you can take fan art as an indication, but one always requiring a huge grain of salt.
I think it might be fair enough when it comes to Suzaku still being angry at Lelouch and not even regarding him as an actual person though (assumed brainwashing included). Such an attitude on Suzaku's part would make sense during this period of time, especially since I'd speculate he isn't very happy about the whole idea of accompanying Julius either.
That said, I believe the "overconfidence" has more to do with the fact Julius comes out of the train and makes a grand public boast like Zero/Lelouch used to do. Even the newest trailer manages to convey a little of this, if you've seen it, but it's also been mentioned by people who saw the episode. And well...travelling on a train isn't equivalent to living in the same place. But I can see why some fans would jump at the opportunity to read too much into that. Can't deny this is all good for marketing purposes either.
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Originally Posted by Xander
I guess that's an interesting...extrapolation about their dynamics, at least in so far as you can take fan art as an indication, but one always requiring a huge grain of salt.
I think it might be fair enough when it comes to Suzaku still being angry at Lelouch and not even regarding him as an actual person though (assumed brainwashing included). Such an attitude on Suzaku's part would make sense during this period of time, especially since I'd speculate he isn't very happy about the whole idea of accompanying Julius either.
That said, I believe the "overconfidence" has more to do with the fact Julius comes out of the train and makes a grand public boast like Zero/Lelouch used to do. Even the newest trailer manages to convey a little of this, if you've seen it, but it's also been mentioned by people who saw the episode. And well...travelling on a train isn't equivalent to living in the same place. But I can see why some fans would jump at the opportunity to read too much into that. Can't deny this is all good for marketing purposes either.
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Originally Posted by Zero Gravity
Greetings all, I used to frequent this forum a lot under another guise, but it's been quite some time. Yes indeed, I was drawn back out by this Julius Kingsley character. Sunrise's marketing plan is working.
I'm a little surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet, so want to draw your attention to some info that apparently no one has posted anywhere. Though we do not yet have even the raws for Akito ep 2, the content can pretty easily be extrapolated from recurring themes in Japanese fanart for the episode -Pixiv in particular.
If we look at the fanart, the nature of Julius Kingsley's existence becomes pretty clear. And all I have to say is.......holy shit.
Sunrise really did their homework, I mean they REALLY did. They pegged us Lelouch fangirls dead-on. At this point I'm pretty convinced that the entire last five years was an enormous market research experiment by Sunrise to see how fans reacted to supplementary materials and what the fans turned around and did with the concepts.
Good job Sunrise, good job. Standing ovation from the Lelouch fanbase. Bravo.
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If he is a clone, Suzaku isn't happy to see him or work with him due to the fact that Julius reminds him of Lelouch. Working with Lelouch who was brainwashed would be like having two masks to serve him just like how Suzaku went to observe him at Ashford during R2; one who wears a face of a friend while the other who's true face sold him out to the emperor. This time it's a face of a subordinate in place of a friend. If Suzaku did show his hatred to Julius, Suzaku's relationship with Lelouch could be exposed by any chance if so, it's just my assumption. Charles did rewrite Lelouch's memories then V.V. dispatched Rolo and the OSI to observe Lelouch and whatever happened after his memories rewritten is obvious being implied in R2 episode 2.
Due to Akito being set in Europe, if Schneizel is going to make appearance, how will he react to Julius? Nah chances are not cuz Schneizel saw him at Kururugi Shrine during the 2nd Black Rebellion and especially how he was with Rolo during NoN and did not get to see Lelouch. Regarding Nunnally, how will she react? Like NoN all over again, she'll assume it's not her brother but a twin with a familiar voice and during the time Suzaku used her to find out if Lelouch regained his memories. Nunnally may not appear in Akito but in Oz.
Last edited by Masurao45; 2013-09-28 at 21:10.
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