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Originally Posted by Judoh
I guess what I'm trying to say is. If you talk about something in red, sure it does imply it exists or it happened somewhere, but if you also declare it's not where/when you are that can also be true, and it would be similar to the knock situation.
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Then what about "some cows are lilac" then? Is it possible to state that in red because some lilac fictional cows exist or is it impossible because for that red to be effective there must be real lilac cows somewhere?
And to inquire further:
Let's take:
"The purple dragon that lives in the forest doesn't exist"
I suppose there's nothing wrong with saying that in red. Then what about
:
"The dragon that lives in the forest isn't purple."
Is that legit to say it?
And going further down you get:
"The dragon that lives in the forest is purple."
And this last statement is hardly possible to justify in red, but according to Renall's logic it should be perfectly possible to say it in red according to the rules in Umineko because since a dragon that lives in the forest doesn't exist in the first place the statement is devoid of any meaning.