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Rias · 2008-08-20, 17:55

Finally finished reading...I see many people have already finished reading a long time ago. Not in the deducing mood yet, so here are my thoughts about this story:

Spoiler for Main Story: Definitely better than 1/2...but Ryukishi07's bad habit of over-describing is back.:

-More history, this time about the adults: mainly Eva and Krauss' relationship and her desire to succeed the family (or make George to)...which became the backbone of Ep3.
-Who would've thought that some people were right about Kumazawa all along..."Kuma->Bear theory"

-Kids groups sure stayed silent for a long while...the talks between the adults were getting a bit boring at times, but was definitely better Eva found the gold.
-As expected, supernatural events in 1 and 2 are just in the witches' claims...with that out in the open, the story becomes really intresting.
-Kyrie + Rudolf vs stakes scene was great...but it's also suprising to learn more about Asumu that way...
-Good to see Battler finally figured out how to approach the game...intresting to see what "powers" the human side gets (recreating any situation, or perhaps that's only possible beucase of Walugire), and what the witches can do (Red text, witness summoning)
-I saw the whole "Sun and Wind tactics" a mile away when Walugira first mentioned it and as Beato loses her composure more and more as Eva-Beatrice took over...but I still couldn't help but to sweat a bit from my eyes during the Beatrice+Kanon scene.
-Enje showing up was awesome...I knew it was bad news when Battler started to acknowlege the witches...

Deductions:
-Hmm...all signs do points towards Eva as the culprit...but what of the initial 6? Also Nanjou's death is still the biggest mystery. It does seem that it might've been the fact that finding the gold pushed Eva into paranoia, but I wonder if there's anything more to that...
-Massive red text at the end was definitely too much for me to deduce for now...there doesn't seem to be any loopholes, unless it's playing on the words again (from the initial 6 suicide red-text trick)...a thing I did notice was that the red text of "all 15 people were dead" happened AFTER Nanjou was dead...
-There is something weird about passing down the title. Assuming anyone who can solve the riddle, like Eva did, would get the name "Beatrice", why wouldn't Ginzo do it himself? Afterall, he's the one who knows where the gold is. Rather, he's more intrested in completing the ritual (which might hint that it is the 'mystery' solution to the first 6. Ginzo goes on a rampage, but dies of old age), than becoming "beatrice" so that he can meet beatrice.

Spoiler for tea party: Funny at start, super development in the middle:

Spoiler for ??? (Hidden Tea Party): Some time after 1986...:

Spoiler for TIPS: more afterthoughts:

It has been an awesome episode. So until next time, "see you again, have a nice day."

2008-08-20, 17:55	Link #201
Rias Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003	Finally finished reading...I see many people have already finished reading a long time ago. Not in the deducing mood yet, so here are my thoughts about this story: Spoiler for Main Story: Definitely better than 1/2...but Ryukishi07's bad habit of over-describing is back.: -More history, this time about the adults: mainly Eva and Krauss' relationship and her desire to succeed the family (or make George to)...which became the backbone of Ep3. -Who would've thought that some people were right about Kumazawa all along..."Kuma->Bear theory" -Kids groups sure stayed silent for a long while...the talks between the adults were getting a bit boring at times, but was definitely better Eva found the gold. -As expected, supernatural events in 1 and 2 are just in the witches' claims...with that out in the open, the story becomes really intresting. -Kyrie + Rudolf vs stakes scene was great...but it's also suprising to learn more about Asumu that way... -Good to see Battler finally figured out how to approach the game...intresting to see what "powers" the human side gets (recreating any situation, or perhaps that's only possible beucase of Walugire), and what the witches can do (Red text, witness summoning) -I saw the whole "Sun and Wind tactics" a mile away when Walugira first mentioned it and as Beato loses her composure more and more as Eva-Beatrice took over...but I still couldn't help but to sweat a bit from my eyes during the Beatrice+Kanon scene. -Enje showing up was awesome...I knew it was bad news when Battler started to acknowlege the witches... Deductions: -Hmm...all signs do points towards Eva as the culprit...but what of the initial 6? Also Nanjou's death is still the biggest mystery. It does seem that it might've been the fact that finding the gold pushed Eva into paranoia, but I wonder if there's anything more to that... -Massive red text at the end was definitely too much for me to deduce for now...there doesn't seem to be any loopholes, unless it's playing on the words again (from the initial 6 suicide red-text trick)...a thing I did notice was that the red text of "all 15 people were dead" happened AFTER Nanjou was dead... -There is something weird about passing down the title. Assuming anyone who can solve the riddle, like Eva did, would get the name "Beatrice", why wouldn't Ginzo do it himself? Afterall, he's the one who knows where the gold is. Rather, he's more intrested in completing the ritual (which might hint that it is the 'mystery' solution to the first 6. Ginzo goes on a rampage, but dies of old age), than becoming "beatrice" so that he can meet beatrice. Spoiler for tea party: Funny at start, super development in the middle: -Santa Claus is a witch too!? Berkerstal sure is mean to him... -LD is still playing Higurashi? And she doesn't know the real culprit's idenity!? -Yandere LD...still can't get over the fact that she lost? -Last time we had Worldenddominator, this time we have miragecoordinator. I'm starting to really like zts' music. Spoiler for ??? (Hidden Tea Party): Some time after 1986...: -With Jessica "missing", the only two left in the end is Eva and Enju... -As expected that Eva's life was in shambles even tho she accquired all the gold. After all, that's what Rosa warned Eva when she wanted to hide the fact that she found the gold. No family, no trust in people, always living in paranoia...even the names of Hideyoshi and George is ruined by that. -Enje = Akasaka!? However, it seems kinda early for her to turn the table completely around...also, it seems that she will be constrained with the fact that she is 6 years old in 1986, just like Rika was... Spoiler for TIPS: more afterthoughts: -Rudolf~Natsuhi isn't "offered to the new witch"... -Siesta Guard/Golden Bow...intresting stuff...I wonder if they will appear again, or different ones will show up next time. It has been an awesome episode. So until next time, "see you again, have a nice day." __________________ Last edited by Rias; 2008-08-20 at 18:45.