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Marion · 2009-06-07, 15:17

Spoiler for Replies, Major EP 4 spoilers:

-The idea is that because they are Kinzo's furniture they are inferior to humans, but on the game board they are more aware - like how they know Beatrice and Kinzo are playing some kind of game. As furniture though, they probably weren't permitted to talk about the game with any of the Ushiromiya members and since they were captured they just decided to die since they knew it was going to happen no matter what. But, since they saw Jessica and George so resolute to fight against the demons and change their own fate both decided to go against Kinzo and Beatrice's game once more. If you think it about it, they raise a good point. Usually at least one is killed in the 1st or 2nd twilight of each game - Shannon died 1st twilight EP 1, Kanon died 2nd twilight EP 2 and both died 1st twilight EP 3. This is the first time we see them fighting as a pair.

-Personally I think it was a boat. According to the chapter Kasumi and her guys were waiting there before Ange had even came and they rode out to the Kuwadorian side of the mansion.

-Virgilia is technically a witch though, so that's why she's summonable. As far as not summoning Beatrice he can't do so directly, without the proper amount of sacrifices.

-No. Battler believed his sin had to do with the fact that he ran away from the family after Asumu died, abandoning the Ushiromiya name, and most likely disgraced his father because of the entire ordeal. Despite that, from what Battler says, Rudolf was completely willing to move on past the entire issue it was Battler who prolonged it until his grandfather's death. And even then he basically forced his father to bow down and apologize to him for what happened, adding more wounds to a battered pride. He also didn't accept Kyrie and Ange for some time and acted coldly towards them for a while, despite the fact that both were willing to think of him as their real son/older brother.

What Beato is upset about is that Battler can't remember the sin of 6 years ago and basically says that because of this sin the murders on Rokkenjima occurred.

-He was only able to use red text for that one time because of the situation.

-The fact that Kinzo is dead before any game easily makes Krauss, Natsuhi, Genji, Kanon, Shannon and Nanjo highly suspicious because all of them had contact with "Kinzo" in some way during the games.

-It was basically a dirty trick, especially since everyone knows that Asumu isn't a daughter of Kinzo so even if she's isn't his mother that makes no difference if Rudolf is still his birth father. It does mean that the grandparents he lived with for the past 6 years aren't his real grandparents, but even then he thought of them as being so through relation.

-lol yeah, Virgilia sure had fun breaking the fourth wall in that scene :U

-Translation error I guess?

2009-06-07, 15:17	Link #985
Marion The Great Dine Join Date: Feb 2009	Spoiler for Replies, Major EP 4 spoilers: -The idea is that because they are Kinzo's furniture they are inferior to humans, but on the game board they are more aware - like how they know Beatrice and Kinzo are playing some kind of game. As furniture though, they probably weren't permitted to talk about the game with any of the Ushiromiya members and since they were captured they just decided to die since they knew it was going to happen no matter what. But, since they saw Jessica and George so resolute to fight against the demons and change their own fate both decided to go against Kinzo and Beatrice's game once more. If you think it about it, they raise a good point. Usually at least one is killed in the 1st or 2nd twilight of each game - Shannon died 1st twilight EP 1, Kanon died 2nd twilight EP 2 and both died 1st twilight EP 3. This is the first time we see them fighting as a pair. -Personally I think it was a boat. According to the chapter Kasumi and her guys were waiting there before Ange had even came and they rode out to the Kuwadorian side of the mansion. -Virgilia is technically a witch though, so that's why she's summonable. As far as not summoning Beatrice he can't do so directly, without the proper amount of sacrifices. -No. Battler believed his sin had to do with the fact that he ran away from the family after Asumu died, abandoning the Ushiromiya name, and most likely disgraced his father because of the entire ordeal. Despite that, from what Battler says, Rudolf was completely willing to move on past the entire issue it was Battler who prolonged it until his grandfather's death. And even then he basically forced his father to bow down and apologize to him for what happened, adding more wounds to a battered pride. He also didn't accept Kyrie and Ange for some time and acted coldly towards them for a while, despite the fact that both were willing to think of him as their real son/older brother. What Beato is upset about is that Battler can't remember the sin of 6 years ago and basically says that because of this sin the murders on Rokkenjima occurred. -He was only able to use red text for that one time because of the situation. -The fact that Kinzo is dead before any game easily makes Krauss, Natsuhi, Genji, Kanon, Shannon and Nanjo highly suspicious because all of them had contact with "Kinzo" in some way during the games. -It was basically a dirty trick, especially since everyone knows that Asumu isn't a daughter of Kinzo so even if she's isn't his mother that makes no difference if Rudolf is still his birth father. It does mean that the grandparents he lived with for the past 6 years aren't his real grandparents, but even then he thought of them as being so through relation. -lol yeah, Virgilia sure had fun breaking the fourth wall in that scene :U -Translation error I guess?