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Originally Posted by Shikijin
In a sense, it's the opposite. People expecting Monogatari to be the chessy romantic relation of two teenagers is one of the reason why the toothbrush scene works.
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Come on you know very well who they wanted to take Karen's place, and we would have gotten almost no nagging
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Originally Posted by DemiSoda
How does a post on why a toothbrush scene being criticized due to it not only being incestuous and irritating, but irrelevant to advancing the plot is considered irrelevant to this episode discussion.
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Because before that the excuse to complain wasn't incestuous toothbrushing, but the Shinobu bathing, before that the Nadeko fooling around, before that Mayoi's handstands, before that Tsubasa posing on Koyomi's bed, before that Karen's crotch on the street, before that Tsukihi's boredom in the sitting room... and all the time the same complain, there is too much ecchi in Nise- since half of them were not fanservice. These were also prevelent in Bake- and Kizu- whether some want to forget them.
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Originally Posted by DemiSoda
Seeing someone stepping on your head with your foot whilst offering their virginity be it in a serious or comedic context appears very sexist to me. Granted I'm not fond of all the female tsunderes that beat up male protagonists for the smallest of reasons either so it goes both ways.
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As much as when Hitagi was torturing Koyomi in the previous arc... How many complained about that
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Originally Posted by DemiSoda
It was made blantantly obvious that Araragi and his sisters were on so-so terms at the start of Nise. Regardless, this episode made no effort to progress the plot or develop characterisation (one of either is required imo to make an episode good) and this episode did neither. It consisted a whole episode dedicated to incestual overtones and a toothbrush fetish.
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Actually, that was obvious since Mayoi Snail, and there was a lot of exposition and development for Karen, and to a lesser extent Tsukihi in the first half of Nise- but since the main topic of discussion is usually how annoyed a vocal minority is by ecchi, discussing these elements of the series is really hard in episode thread
