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Originally Posted by yakisobapan

Spoiler for huge spoilers:

Since it is the D-mail Okarin sent after seeing Kurisu's "corpse" which sets off the whole chain of events, I believe that it is correct to say that Okarin's POV is the deciding factor in this case. It wouldn't matter if anyone else discovered that Kurisu isn't acutally dead, as long as Okarin sends the mail.

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Hmmm let me know if I'm misinterpreting you.
Basically what I had reasoned out was that:

- Okabe needs to see "bloody" Kurisu in order to send the first D-mail

- This first D-mail is a huge event that carries a large world line divergence % (世界線変動率%). This must be carried out in order to avoid time paradox.

- Compared to the significance of said event, the act of other people "observing" that Kurisu is in fact, dead, is a very minor detail carrying a negligible world line divergence %

- Therefore, the possibility of other people having "observed" Kurisu's death can be ignored, as Kurisu alive or dead, won't be causing a time paradox.

- This allows Okabe to "deceive" the world without worrying about anything other than Okabe's own perspective.

EDIT:

Originally Posted by yakisobapan

Spoiler for huge spoilers:

While Okarin's POV is definetely very important as he triggers the events, I don't think it's correct to say that he alone is the deciding factor in regard to the outcome of the world lines, and I wasn't of the impression that the game was trying to tell it either.

Spoiler for game:

Oh, yeah. I definitely agree with this.
I don't think the writers intended for Okabe to be some kind of god whose POV is all that matters, haha.

It's just that future Okabe's master plan to save Kurisu in CH11 sort of led me to doubt everything.
I mean, the whole premise of the plan was:

- Abide by the rules of this world line (Beta). Keep the events of that day consistent. Avoid time paradox!

- But trick the world so that the past is consistent and time paradox is avoided, while altering the result!
a.k.a. save Kurisu, Dr. Asshole loses his documents and enter "Steins;Gate"

It baffled me that future Okabe was so confident that his plans would succeed, solely from the belief that "Okabe never confirmed whether Kurisu was actually dead."

OK, that allows for Okabe to trick his past self. But shouldn't he be worried about causing a time paradox in relation to other people that came into contact with stabbed Kurisu that day? It seemed as though future Okabe's plans only account for "deceiving" Okabe's perspective, and not necessarily the world.

Which is why I reasoned out my own reason for future Okabe's confidence above.