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Total Eclipse - Mecha, Weapons, and Technology
As the title suggests, the purpose of this thread is to discuss Total Eclipse Mecha, Weapons, and Technology
This is a thread specific to the Total Eclipse story. Mecha, Weapons, and Technology from the wider Muv-Luv Franchise can be discussed in the Game & General Franchise Thread. If you will be discussing mecha/weapons/technology that have not yet appeared in the Total Eclipse anime you must use clearly-marked, properly-labelled spoiler tags. [spoiler=title]Don't forget to use a title to let everyone know what you're spoiling![/spoiler] Spoiler for title:
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2012-09-20, 21:14 | Link #7 |
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The blue and white Shiranui is referred to as "Nine-Four Second", and serves as the testbed for the XFJ project. It begins life as a standard Shiranui Type-1C, which is then further modified with more powerful engines as a result of cross pollination from the ACTV Eagle.
A testbed aircraft is not a prototype; rather it is an aircraft that is modified to resemble the future prototype in certain respects, and is used for data collection and tests - hence testbed. The red and white Shiranui on the other hand, is the new Shiranui Niigata (Shiranui Type-2) prototype, which IIRC is a new airframe that incorporates the lessons learned from the 94 Second testbed.
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It's actually MSIP, which stands for Multi-Stage Improvement Plan, which is a plan to turn the 94 Second testbed into the proper Shiranui Type-2. Among the improvements are more powerful engines, thruster blocks derived from the Active Eagle, improved sensors...
The final result, from the stage by stage improvements, eventually becomes the Type-04 Shiranui Niigata in IJA service. Like ATSF, it's in a flyoff competition against the F-15SE Silent Eagle. Unlike ATSF, the flyoff takes place during an assault into a BETA hive.
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1st Gen TSFs were built on a solid fixed frame, which allowed for heavy tank like armor, and low mobility. Which was not a good idea against the BETA swarms. Future generations of TSF builds were more focused on mobility, and are more streamlined. Compound armor is used to reduce weight but give improved survivability to laser radiation, and mobility is emphasized to dodge the attacks. Do check out the wiki for more details. http://muvluv.wikia.com/wiki/Tactical_Surface_Fighter
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2012-10-04, 08:45 | Link #16 |
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which was why ep14 was totally wrong... they still did the laser wrongly compared to every other single source in the VNs and novels...(bursts instead of intensifying beams lasting for a few seconds aka lasers in mechwarrior for example) The armor is supposed to last for 3 to 5 secs against lux, and 1 sec against mag-lux...
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"totally wrong" i cannot agree to that...
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2012-10-04, 11:18 | Link #18 |
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I think its made to cause impact in the audience so they can feel the how powerless human are next to betas, beyond the point of techinicalities... That and the low budget. Its hard to find robot or scifi anime that show that kind of detail accurately. Its a show after all.
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I don't think its the low budget, but rather the 'creative' direction the director took... after all that talk about following the mechanics of the world as closely as possible since he is a fan... So the point which I was trying to make, is that the armor for TSFs after 1st gen is suppose to be better than what is shown against lasers. Against impacts on the other hand... ep13 is an example of plot armor... how the 'black knight' can still move with all that damage is not at the level of reality normally shown in Muv Luv...
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