2005-01-01, 12:08 | Link #1 |
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Mouth shape
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According to one Japanese language website I went to, the only difference between an American "L" and an American "R" is a subtle difference in the tongue position. However, I was saying the word "starlight" out loud to myself, after hearing the word masecred in the OP on X-TV, and noticed that in fact it not just my tongue that moves. For the "R" in "Star", my mouth shape remains in basically a neutral position...indeed, only the tongue moves for this part. However, when imediately starting the "L" in "Light", my mouth immediately flatens and widens...as though baring my teeth at someone. While my lips are doing this, my tongue goes hard against the back of the upper teeth, and my throat goes "rrrrr". With my mouth flattened and widened, and my tongue hard against the back of my teeth, out comes a very hard "L": LLLLight. Its different again when I say the word "Electricity". Here, the "L" is quite similar, although the widening and flattening of the mouth is not as extreme. However, the "R" in "Electricity" I do differently than the "R" in "Star". Whereas when making the "R" in "Star" my lips did not change shape at all, when making the "R" in "Electricity" my lips compress somwhat at the start of the R, almost as though I am going to make a "W" sound, then returns to a neutral shape when transitioning from the "R" to the "I" in the word. Maybe I'm just Elmar Fudd with a speech impediment |
2005-01-01, 13:23 | Link #4 | |
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2005-01-01, 13:34 | Link #5 | |
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2005-01-01, 14:05 | Link #6 | |
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2005-01-01, 19:22 | Link #7 |
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I declare this thread as the Useless Random Facts Thread!
Now to demonstrate this, I will give you a fact that you'll never need to know in your life but will anyway! Banana's are the only fruit that was never the "Fruit of the Month". Ducks have a flying-falling-death-rocks-from-above sense. Calvin and Hobbes was the first comc strip in existance to use the word "boogers" in a comic strip. Everyone hates Jarjar Binks. Pop 'n Music is a doinky idea for a video game. See? Completely useless. |
2005-01-02, 22:49 | Link #9 | |
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2005-01-03, 02:56 | Link #11 |
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The Japanese "r" is really more like a cross between r, l, and d. The 5 letters it is used in are:
Hiragana: ら、り、る、れ、ろ Katakana: ラ、リ、ル、レ、ロ Romanized: ra, ri, ru, re, ro The sound is made by touching your tongue to the top of your mouth. I don't think mouth shape has any effect on it. Why do I feel I just wasted 2 minutes of my life posting here? |
2005-01-03, 11:10 | Link #12 | |
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2005-01-04, 14:59 | Link #13 |
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Did you know that in many parts of Asia people pronounce "el" as "air". My dad and his Asian colleagues do this all the time, but I never take the time to corrent them. For example:
help is pronounced hairp bell is pronounced bair It's very strange, I don't know where this fits in the logics of phonics. |
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2005-01-05, 02:14 | Link #18 | |
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