2003-11-18, 03:28 | Link #1 |
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"New" Low - Hacking
heh, you may or may not have heard of suteki-yume's interesting demise yet, but nevertheless the conversation in the main channel made me a bit disgusted. Basically the operators were commenting on how they used hacked bots for distros.
Has it come to this? Forget subbing licensed anime, hacking distros with pride, "stealing" a groups title out of malice, and even attack bots in idiotic irc wars of what I thought were long gone? Now this raises the real question, if this is true, how many groups do this knowledgeably? Has this really become standard practice, have ethics become forgotten? Whatever, you read the log and decide, I'm too tired and disgusted to think straight. Here's the link, it's an uncut log (if you want the whole session I can post it, but someone needs to host it). link: http://www.geocities.com/animeethics...some.drama.log it's geocities, so if someone could host this in case it goes down it'd be appreciated Crossposted on Anime News Network http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/...pic.php?t=4330 |
2003-11-18, 03:38 | Link #2 |
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Hacking others distros... 33vil...
Good thing I distro from my own comp with no FTP... And no other way to get to my files than I sending them... Hope not many groups use that hacking method thingy... GET YA OWN DISTROZ! YA FRIGGIN THIEFS! or something... |
2003-11-18, 05:22 | Link #3 | |
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2003-11-18, 05:22 | Link #4 | |
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2003-11-18, 07:32 | Link #6 |
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You're surprised by this?
Did you really think that everyone was just going to get along and play nice? Of course there will always be people who do things such as this. Then again, people who do these kinds of things get theirs in the end. Last edited by Tenkoy; 2003-11-18 at 07:46. |
2003-11-18, 13:23 | Link #8 | |
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The distinction between hijacked and legal is sometimes a very hard distinction. |
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2003-11-18, 13:26 | Link #9 |
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I'm sure they also pay for all that bandwith they use. I think not. Most likely it's stolen from university, but if they didn't have all this stolen bandwith then it would take us years to get stuff. The whole fansub scene is going to hell in a handbasket.
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2003-11-18, 13:35 | Link #10 |
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Like no one saw my post in the torrent submissions forum where I took a shit on them (suteki-yume.)
There are HORDES of groups like them that act like they're the greatest thing ever and yet their channels are full of rooted *nix boxes and trojanned windows machines serving up shit on IRC. Most notably on Aniverse, primarily cause the IRCOPs on the network are fucking hypocritical in their motd and say "we won't allow copyrighted material to be traded here" but turn a blind eye to the trading of licensed anime even though it falls under the same clause. Of course, they don't want to hear it. |
2003-11-18, 15:08 | Link #11 | |
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And the whole clause of: "we won't allow copyrighted material to be traded here" is bullshit to begin with. Anime is copyrighten. So there fore no one should use aniverse to trade anime. |
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2003-11-19, 02:08 | Link #17 | |
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Couple emails to a couple people or maybe an excessively large spike in bw and they will all go bye bye. Be happy that most people turn a blind eye to this practice. Better to use legit methods with people controlling them. I can assure you this practice wont last forever. Downloading is not meant to be a luxury. Oh, or they could just stop distro'ing... its not like they fansub for you... |
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2003-11-19, 14:15 | Link #18 |
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o.0 then kindly explain to me why the group has only 1 bot which is paid at $80 per 2 months out of my own pocket? And also why are we moving that bot to a co-located server? We also have a 2nd bot which is hosted kindly by a EDU helper.
And btw shia-chan and intermezzo is not part of our crew in the first place, they just happened to came into power during the internal war if u read the front which happened to be "missing". And also btw we aren't chatting how we used hacked bots for distro, we were fighting over wtf distro really is, so stop framing us. The lower section about the attack bots weren't by the channel ops also, they were by some curious fans like u who were curious about what bots are all about. And yes, almost all XDCC Bots are actually hacked bots if u really want to know what they are. XDCC Bots can't be purchased from ISP or hosting company unless u happen to know a friend in a hosting company which might not work out also. Thus the only common way you can get an XDCC Bot is to either get edu people to join your distro and install iroffer on his computer and thus setup a XDCC Bot, however most edu won't do that as they don't wanna get their lines cancelled and iroffer itself is regared as a virus by virus scanners like norton. For more info on what XDCC Bots really are, read here. http://www.thebluenowhere.org/IRC/xdcc.html There is actually another more detailed guide as to what they really are, but the site was hacked and infested with a virus thus I will not post the link here. If you are still very interested to know more and how to see if your computer is rooted and how rooters play with your computer, read the edu log here. http://staff.washington.edu/dittrich...nisog-xdcc.txt And personally I'm studying how to unroot computers which are rooted as from what I know, they hide the folder in your system32 section and change your window settings to make that folder hidden from even the admin account, and thus it's impossible to access without mounting it. Though the conclusion from all that I know is that, anime groups or ware groups will resort to XDCC Bots even if it means hacking to get them as firstly XDCC Bots are easy to use and download from and you can access the server remotely and edit the bot. Also, to pay for legal xdcc bots would cost a bomb over time and thus the normal reaction of a human would be, it's free. And without XDCC bots, I really doubt we can get animes like today... we might very well still be like the 1990 where Anime Fansubbing is really cool and rare, and getting to see anime is really a wonder. Ftp distro or dump you see fansub groups use... most are also hacked. They are actually servers which can't use the exec command from the ftp and thus are unable to install iroffer, and so can only be used as a dump lolz. Hope I answered your question on XDCC Bots, I'll be glad to share more that I know and what I learned if you wish to know more. |
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