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[Manga] Chapter 490 Discussion
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2010-04-06, 14:34 | Link #5 | |
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Surely it's not something so crazy as Rikudou sennin... but then again the moon's a freakin 10 tailed beast... anythings possible. I don't think it's Oro, because Madara wouldn't have such a strong reaction to him, but I'm a bit surprised Kabuto didn't bring him up. Maybe his soul isn't retrievable by the technique because it's trapped in that sword. |
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2010-04-06, 14:36 | Link #6 | |
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There are only two options:
In the coffin, there's either Rikkudou Sennin himself or Madara - the original Madara with two EMS eyes. As everyone here thinks that this weirdo with one eye is Madara, it has to be Rikkudou Sennin. Of course it would be awesome, because that's the only real trump card. Nothing is superior to Rikkudou Sennin himself, who gave birth to Sharingan and the whatever perfect body of the Senju... Even Pain emphasized that the Sage of the Six Paths' moon was totally superior to his creation. He was the legendary who tamed the Jyuubi. He could make all of Madara's dreams come true. Quote:
SO you got that idea, too. :-)
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2010-04-06, 15:06 | Link #7 |
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So I just read the data book information on Edo Tensei, and I swear this has to be the most broken technique in the series. The only limitation or requirements I could find is first you need a fresh dead body for each summon (who cares when Oro proved you can kill gennins and replace them with Kages), and the amount of chakra you have determines the amount of simultaneous summons you can resurrect. Again who cares. Even if you only had the chakra for one or two of them, if you can kill a kid and turn him into the most powerful ninja in the series who has died. Does anyone know if there are any other factors, because I seriously don't see anything keeping Kabuto from summoning anyone. I mean forget the akatsuki, he could have Rikudou sennin, the first four Kages (oh, maybe the new casket is the 4th!), and Izuna all at once if this is all there is to it.
PS: Maybe this is getting off topic, but I searched for a decent Edo Tensei thread and I couldn't find one. Back OT: Dead characters that would make Madara wet his pants: First Hokage Forth Hokage Rikudou sennin possibly Uchiha Izuna and Zabuza... alright maybe not |
2010-04-06, 15:17 | Link #8 |
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I thought about Jiraiya... wouldn't Jiraiya be the perfect weapon to fight Naruto? Naruto wouldn't be able to fight him. It would expose Naruto's weakness and he could get voulnerable, no matter what power he acquires.
The first people I thought about were Madara, Izuna and Rikudou, but the more I think about it... Let me say this... -First Hokage's summoning could only be possible if the Fourth's summoning was also possible... and yes, it was. I wonder if the Fourth could be summoned as the Third canceled that summoning before. He would be the ultimate weapon against Naruto.... well next to Jiraiya who I mentioned before. I think Naruto is not able to fight one of those.
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2010-04-06, 15:18 | Link #9 |
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That can't be Madara if Madara is there, since this is not summoning of a body (wouldn't make sense anyway since the body rot away long ago) but the summon of a soul and temprorarily bind that soul to a body made of a sacrifice.
Sure it seems that Kishimoto pulled out Kabuto's magical super-powerup from his ass since he didn't have anyone for the "evil" side while there are plenty of ninja on the good side. So he was thinking "who the hell could i add to madara's side? wait, there's Kabuto, i almost forgot him ". But it still doesn't impress me, only a very few ninja against the whole world now, also these can't work as a team since they want to kill each other. |
2010-04-06, 15:21 | Link #10 |
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sasuke is to become canon fodder after the war....what a suprise
which basically means hes not that important to madara's overall plan atleast once its done. Kabuto reaffirms that he wants sasuke dead even though Oro isn't really dead hes just been sealed away. Madara does actually care about someone after all,his dead brother maybe?? |
2010-04-06, 15:29 | Link #11 |
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Just in case this guy who says "My power. Uchiha Madara's power" and people say "You go by Madara these days"... just in case this guy was not Madara, summoning Madara would make him a liar. He wouldn't seem immortal anymore. He wouldn't be overestimated. If he was not Madara, only a summoned Madara could be the ultimate proof and he wouldn't want anyone to see that, I guess.
I still wonder what that so-called Madara did to the henchmen of Danzou... because they clearly appear on page 2-3 of chapter 489.
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2010-04-06, 15:37 | Link #12 |
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About Kabuto summoning ...Madara? He is already there and we were talking about summoning souls, right? His soul is there if he could summon his body /which should also be there in front of him assuming this is the real Madara/, then everything's cool.
And does anyone know what is the "reach" of the Edo Tensei summoning. Meaning: you can summon a soul... but where can you summon it from. Can you call it from anywhere? Meaning: can you summon the soul even if it is trapped in an endless fight with /with the HANDS of Oro ha-ha/ some other souls. You may be able to call it. Unless the Shinigami is a douche and will not give it back, it's a possibility. |
2010-04-06, 15:44 | Link #13 | |
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The 4th Hokage has been summoned by Orochimaru before. The 3rd Hokage aborted that, but the fact is that the 4th Hokage had used Shkiki Fuujin before he died, so his soul was contained in the dimension of the Death God in an endless fight with the Kyuubi.
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2010-04-06, 15:47 | Link #14 | |
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I support the idea of the summoning being either Madara's brother /yes, i think that is Madara right there.../ or the sage of 6 paths. |
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2010-04-06, 15:50 | Link #15 | |
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2010-04-06, 16:04 | Link #19 | |
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't First, Second, Third and Fourth Hokage souls sealed away and therefor off limit for Edo Tensei?
When Kobuto already had summoned powerful men like Pain and Itachi it's hard to imagine someone who would excite Madara to that effect...The only one I can think of that would make a difference is Rikudō Sennin. Quote:
I agree, it such a god awful powerful technique that all shinobis should be out to learn it...Though, of course, it's very likely extremely hard to learn, else why wouldn't more "evil" (and good guys as well, since it was Nidaime (who was a good guy, wasn't he) who created the technique in the first place) shinobis be able to perform it. |
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