2010-06-07, 18:17 | Link #2181 | ||
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I don't want to spend too much time looking because I thought it was common knowledge. Evangelion is one of the main reasons why they passed new censorship laws in the 90s. Here are some quotes from it though. Spoiler:
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There were rumors that Evangelion 3.0 would come out this summer, but as we can see, nothing much has happened so far with that. At the very least, we're certain of at least about 90 minutes more of animation goodness.
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2010-06-07, 19:18 | Link #2182 |
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I'm just hoping we at least get a solid release date soon. Maybe some screenshots before the end of the year.
Personally, I've got my fingers crossed hoping we'll actually get to somehow see what Kyoko Soryu - sorry, "Shikinami" - looked like (the silhouetted-against-a-blinding-light-window image from Asuka's Mind Rape flashback doesn't count; I'm talking about sane Kyoko with discernable facial features). |
2010-06-07, 20:14 | Link #2183 | |
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2010-06-07, 20:55 | Link #2184 | |
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So hope all you want, but please don't act like anyone involved in the production has said anything like that. Believe me, I know from experience: once internet rumors get started, they're hard to quell. |
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2010-06-08, 10:50 | Link #2188 |
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In my experience, anything that goes over an hour and fifteen minutes. For example, while fun, I never considered the Inukami! movie as anything but an OVA that had been shown in a movie theater due to the fact that it was barely more than 30 minutes long.
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2010-06-08, 15:49 | Link #2189 | |
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2010-06-08, 16:03 | Link #2190 | |
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http://wiki.evageeks.org/Neon_Genesis_Evangelion You're not going to get an official statement by Gainax seeing as they are trying to cover up their problems for whatever reason.
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2010-06-08, 17:18 | Link #2192 |
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So basically, you have nothing to believe? That's fine. But there is a lot of evidence from the fans that you have not refuted. When sponsors drop a show, you cannot possibly say that you are not going to have budget problems.
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2010-06-08, 17:29 | Link #2193 | |
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If you have seen Evangelion, you have probably noticed that after a while, each episode seems to be cheaper than the one before it. There are a couple of reasons for this. It was too ambitious for its budget to begin with, so after some beautiful material towards the beginning, they had to increasingly cut corners, (reused footage of the Bridge Bunnies at their consoles, etc.) Then came episodes 18-20. Evangelion was broadcast in prime time; in fact it came on right after the Ninja Turtles. If produced today, it would be broadcast after midnight. The network and the sponsors were not prepared for anything as violent as eps. 18-19, and then the obvious off-screen sex in ep. 20 was the last straw. The budget was cut further, resulting in all of the infamous pauses you see in eps. 22-24. The network rejected the script for ep. 25 altogether, (the first half of End of Evangelion is based upon the rejected script). This ultimately resulted in Anno presenting us with the abstract or "inner" version of the ending that we all know and (some of us) love from eps. 25-26. First, I'd point that nowhere does it say the sponsors pulled out from the program, as you claim. Second, I'd also note that Evageeks itself doesn't cite sources. The network rejected episode 25? I've never heard that before. (NOTE: I'M NOT SAYING IT'S FALSE). So then the assistant director was DEFINITELY lying when he said the ending was always planned that way...? That's kind of a bombshell, isn't it? Where did Evageeks get that info? |
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2010-06-08, 17:30 | Link #2194 |
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All i'm saying is i'd rather see some official information then what fans have talked about. It's pretty understandable really when you think about it.
Edit: Yot-chan did a better job of it. :3
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2010-06-08, 17:50 | Link #2195 | |
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2010-06-08, 18:31 | Link #2196 |
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Alright, I see what you are saying, but it is very hard for me to pull up the most legitimate sources because
1. The anime is over a decade old 2. I don't speak Japanese However, these rumors have been well founded in the past and there was information out there like Gainax spending half the entire's show budget on the first 2 episodes (LOL). You don't have to believe me, but this information seems to be spread almost everywhere you go online. The only ones who seem to state the contrary are Gainax themselves. @ Yot-chan Yeah, sorry perhaps i shouldn't of said that the sponsors dropped the show exactly. It wasn't just that though, the network pressures, time constraints (They did the last episodes literally the week it was airing), and Anno going off the deep end all contributed to the utterly fantastic blaze of glory that the TV ending was.
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2010-06-08, 19:19 | Link #2197 | |
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So: We've got an unsourced Gainax quote saying that the last two episodes were always meant to be like that; we've got an unsourced Evageeks article saying that there were budget problems, and that the network rejected episode 25; and we've got you adding that the final episodes were finished the week they were aired, which is something else that I hadn't heard (I thought that situation was relatively common, though...?). If one version is true, the other must be false. I can't presume to say which one is correct (if either), and neither can you. Probably best to label them as rumors rather than boldly asserting them as facts. |
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2010-06-08, 19:59 | Link #2198 | |||
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Anno was depressed when he made Evangelion, but he increasingly became more depressed as the show went on. It is well known that there were time constraints (The only thing that seems to be consistent between the stories of Gainax and Eva fans). I did read some budget information sometime some years ago I just haven't been able to find it. I myself am thouroughly convinced by the information presently known as are many others. Here is what I do know though. I'll include the best sources I know of. Quote:
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2010-06-08, 20:55 | Link #2199 |
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I have the Red Cross book, and what Reckoner referenced is accurate. At least at the time it was published (the same time EoE came out) anyway.
I have a feeling that there's a strange sort of historical revisionism that has occurred, at least in the minds of the staff themselves as the years went on, which is why their more recent comments regarding the TV series' troubles as it near its close contradict what they had said just a few years before. They may joke about it now, but it was probably not a laughing matter back then.
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Muddying the water even further is all the fan speculation that has gone on non-stop since the episodes first aired. Theories get treated as rumors, rumors get treated as fact, half-remembered anecdotes get fully twisted around... It's the nature of the internet, I suppose, but it WOULD be nice if we could straighten out the threads before they get tangled even further. As such, I'm not trying to be hard on Reckoner or anyone else here...it's just that sources are highly appreciated by me, and just because someone read something somewhere back in '98 doesn't necessarily mean it's true. |
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