2004-12-11, 18:59 | Link #81 | |
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But yeah.. I hope without spoiling too much I can say that in my opinion, with the exception of what happens with Sasuke, this entire arc is pretty pointless. |
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2004-12-11, 22:51 | Link #84 | |
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That was a differet test that followed the bell test. And it was the same principle, Whatever it takes to complete the mission. |
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2004-12-12, 00:32 | Link #85 | ||
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I don't really see why it's so hard to understand Shika's choice.
They can't all leave because they would get killed from behind by Jiroubou. They can't all fight him because even if they're able to beat him it will take too much time and they will lose Sasuke. His first choice wasn't Chouji alone but he was obviously heavily decided to fight and in the end Shika does trust him. So that's it, what's the problem? Quote:
-the Sound nin with Sasuke continue to flee during the combat and pass the border of the country : complete failure. -The clone poof against any hit, Jiroubou just has to use whatever huge Doton jutsu to destroy huge bunch of them easily while Neji would have some difficulties to hit Jiroubou if there are a hundred clones between him and the target anyway. Quote:
I mean we're in the ninja business because girls get crazy when you say that you're a shinobi, not to take the risk to be wounded... that would be totally uncool. Anyways you have another mission for me? Something like saving a beautiful, very rich and single princess from some weakling because I didn't really like this one. |
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2004-12-12, 20:45 | Link #86 | |
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Anyway I interpreted the bell test differently, the purpose of the 2 bells is to sort of force people to work alone when clearly it cannot be done alone. If there are 3 bells, obviously they would work together but since there are 2, they prefer to work alone as none of them wants to be the one left out. The purpose of the bell test is to ensure that they would work together even though one of them maybe left out in the end. It doesnt mean a sacrifice. A sacrifice is obviously too high a cost to pay over the completion of the mission. Thats why they passed the next test when they fed Naruto. They chose not to 'sacrifice' Naruto. I think that the reason Chouji was left behind was that Shikamaru was very confident of Chouji's success. He didn't intentionally 'sacrifice' him. He had to weigh the risks vs the benefits. Whether the decision was good is clearly subjective, its not clear-cut. In real-life , people judge decisions by its results. They don't really care about the processes behind it. So I guess we shall see. When I first saw the episode, it looked like a good decision plus they explained it pretty well and so as long as its not an obviously stupid decision, it's fine by me. |
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2004-12-13, 09:30 | Link #87 | ||
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2004-12-13, 14:42 | Link #89 | |
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2004-12-13, 15:10 | Link #90 | |
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EDIT: Thing about 'spoiler below' removed because, well, the mods removed the "spoiler". Last edited by Yujinbito; 2004-12-14 at 03:22. |
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2004-12-13, 16:20 | Link #91 | |
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2004-12-13, 22:30 | Link #93 |
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Shikamaru's decision was a sound one considering what he knew about Jiroubou. He didn't know about the cursed seal at all, and even the first pill was enough for Chouji to win the fight normally. If Shikamaru had thought that Chouji could possibly be forced to use the third pill he wouldn't have left him behind.
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2004-12-15, 08:00 | Link #96 |
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well i just hope this freaking fights don't last ages like in DBZ i would get so pissed off...i mean seriously why can't they just show a full-on fight where the characters keep fighting and fighting? and i always asked myself how come the good characters can always find the strength to fight while the bad ones always end up beaten up and they showed no strength? it's like they are not motivated while if they are on the bad side they are motivated like the good ones and should be able to pull out as much strength as the good ones....i hate this shitty balance between good and evil...i want bad guys to be emotional too....for example gaaravslee fight was awesome at least some bad guy won....but this series of fight it's all about how good we are....
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2004-12-20, 00:45 | Link #99 |
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oops. so sorry for this late comment for #113
sorry, i'm a little late in posting this comment about #113
remember one part shikamaru was about to use the shadow bind skill to bind that big brute from behind, he smashes the ground and disappeared in a cloud of smoke.. i'm surprised that neji didn't see him from behind, since his byakugan was activated at that time to see through the cloud of dust. instead kiba sniffed the enemy out i'd thought the byakugan enables the user to see almost 360 all around him at once, and isn't limited by the line of sight unlike normal people. so sorry abt the late posting Last edited by NoSanninWa; 2004-12-20 at 01:12. Reason: Threads merged! I don't care how excrementally late it is, put it in the proper thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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