2012-02-16, 11:24 | Link #241 | |
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I mean in order for him to depict military action scenes he needs access to military vehicles which come from the US military so obviously he has to showboat them. (US propaganda) and this helps out with the budget. I mean that's why most of the autobots were GM vehicles right? On that end I found the US military a tad too powerful and convenient. There were cases where I was wondering why they kept saying "OMG we need the autobots" because really....they could've beaten the decepticons without the Autobots at all. Granted more would die but then so what? Then there were cases with Starscream. I mean the first movie was ok since he provided aerial support but was driven off through sheer numers but in the 2nd and 3rd it was like...where the hell are you? |
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The Pentagon gave Michael Bay leave to use some of its assets (it even sacrificed some of the mock-up tanks used in Red Flag exercises for the SOCCENT attack, when those burning tanks go tumbling in midair), but as far as I can tell, the only restrictions Bay was forced to abide by was that he couldn't either film some pieces of hardware from certain angles (the F22) or some real-life protocols had to be correctly acted out on the big screen (the example he used, if I'm not mistaken, was when the IT girl barged in on the SecDef's little SITREP session to argue that the hacking problem was caused by something no less powerful than a quantum computer -- in real life, that girl wouldn't have been able to do so and the Pentagon was adamant in pointing that out). Aside from that, the Pentagon has little say over what is shown, unless it paints the armed forces in a bad way (which became an issue in the Hurt Locker, if memory serves well). Quote:
Granted, there is that railgun on the Arleigh Burke destroyer (whose existence is only explained in the comics, but never in the movie), but for some reason it was never fired again. And in DotM the USAF got clobbered by the Decepticons' line of defense (NEST lost more than 60-75% of its ground troops, too, during the airdrop scene) erected around Chicago. Much of the heavy firepower shown in the last battle (aside from the Tomahawk strike) was provided by the Autobots (esp. the Wreckers). But I'm still surprised the Pentagon didn't cringe while watching all three movies - I mean, they lost (on the big screen, I mean) the SOCCENT base plus an entire aircraft carrier (some USN bigwigs must've had a heart attack at that moment), plus a USMC contingent, a dozen F22s and MV22s... I'm actually surprised the Pentagon doesn't hate Bay instead of being fond of him - I mean, he makes them suffer so much on-screen... XD Quote:
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I was apalled when the Decepticons were taken down so easily by soldiers with sniper rifles and grenades. Yes I know they did training and such but I just cringed in those scenes. Those kills belonged to the Autobots and Starscream died in such a pathetic way. These are alien robots that have existed for millions of years with highly advanced tech but are so damn vulnerable. I mean I would rather have the humans as an annoyance with the Autobots doing the actual killing. I guess that was my main issue. The only transformers that had any reasonable screen time was Sentinel, Optimus, and bumblee with the others just there. Even Megatron was horrible. Dark of the Moon IMO was the better one but still.. Quote:
Regardless, if that's the case then no matter what Live action transformer movie we get it'll always be like this with humans doing 90% of the fighting. As VCV stated, it literally WAS GJ Joe: guest starring the Transformers. Last edited by SoldierOfDarkness; 2012-02-16 at 12:35. |
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2012-02-16, 20:54 | Link #245 | |
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2012-02-17, 18:54 | Link #246 |
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Damn this isn't exactly what I had in mind for a reboot, Bay still being at the helm is gonna get to me but then it is more transformers!
Couldn't be sitting on a more uncomfortable fence like I am atm concerning this. Here's hoping I don't get my hopes up over this from now till the film is out.....what a thing to hope for>__<
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2012-02-18, 01:21 | Link #248 |
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^But the 80's movie (aswell as the TV show) has what is called a heart and a soul...
Something Bay couldn't find if it crawled up his gastank... For the people who had been patiently if not apathetically waiting for Bay's vision of Transformers to run it's course, there is no longer any hope...that's what's hitting some people I've talked to...
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2012-02-18, 13:23 | Link #250 | |
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I mean if your gonna tell me this doesn't have heart and soul then you a robot to me The most memorable scene from any movie I've ever seen. I don't need a modern day transformers film to really be like the 80s film but a little hark back to then wouldn't do any harm, something for us old time fans to write home about but we only got one little bit in the first film when Prime says "At the end of the day one will stand and one will fall".
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