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View Poll Results: Psycho-Pass - Episode 14 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 30 | 40.54% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 34 | 45.95% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 7 | 9.46% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 1 | 1.35% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 2.70% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2013-01-26, 13:52 | Link #101 | ||
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2013-01-26, 16:53 | Link #103 |
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I think I know part of the reason why Makshima has his psycho pass so clear. He probably doesn't think of humans... as well humans. To him everything might very well be so corrupt "people" might as well be "walking robots"
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2013-01-27, 03:10 | Link #104 | ||
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hmm postings on psychopass seems to be picking up last few episodes well episodes and story is getting more interesting so...
wow that was......so brutal...so urubochi....and my mind cant even begin to register how those watching could just stand there doing nothing... that's how far their society is (...have fallen?) but great episode, Makishima now shown to be more than just doing it for the thrills and actually does it for socio-political reasons. he still a cold-hearted bastard though. Kougami still the Boss detective of the squad that he is. and akane being akane, clear hued as ever. nice though that this time everyone seems to be contributing to the team. liked how he said " 282...? I'm glad this thing didn't turn into an Eliminator ^^" wait that means masaoka has an even higher "normal" psycho-pass than kougami, since the helmet read kougami. Loved the OP, IMO better than the 1st. hmm 38 revolver(?) guess he would need it against makishima. And ED ...Egoist nuff said :P >>>fan dakara .. EDIT : Quote:
then i would disagree. for the whole SYSTEM itself already dictates practically everything in their society at this point. it's not just the Dominator or the Hue scanners, but the way of implementing the results, the whole kit and caboodle, the supercomputers doing the analyzing, the school system, the therapy clinics, the director calling the shots, practically all their manufacturing systems are subsystems of Sibyl, heck even Akane &company at the MWPSB are part and parcel of the Sibyl system and works to keep it's SYSTEM operational. The Sibyl SYSTEM perpetuates itself and keeps people like sheep. so it is the problem at this point. of course there are a few like akane & makishima who could bypass this without being labeled latent criminal, but they're what 1 in a million, though luck getting the system to change. now if you meant the Technology behind Sibyl is not to blame then yeah sure you have my support. Also if you think that technology would be better with some adjustments changes in implementation then that's no longer the Sibyl Sytem we're talking about here. I think this is probably were the plot might go. some sort of compromise, or a gradual change into a Different kind of system. Quote:
so why is education so important...just like asking a baby or a brain dead person to be responsible for his/her action. ( oops brain dead people can't move, what is the politically correct way of calling really really stupid people...>.<) ( hmm feels like a poke on current trends in society today from the author ehehe....)
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2013-01-27, 05:51 | Link #106 | |
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And thats what Makishima is doing. The more appaling, the more shocking, the more bone chilling, the better! |
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2013-01-27, 09:00 | Link #107 | |||
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Lol...so the "good citizen" is one that stares expressionlessly at someone getting bashed to death and films the whole thing while doing nothing else....You know, such level of apathy can be considered sign of CC too...but whatever, it's clear whoever designed Sybil are pretty dubious themselves
Also, behold, the ultimate laziness in police patrol....Big Head Dumbo to your rescue www Logically, Makishima is going to be well-trained in close combat, since you can't shoot him, you have to melee him Anyway, the urban scenery in this ep is lovely. Quote:
well, we'll see in the coming eps whether they can demonstrate if they are deserving of a better world. There's no point screaming at them to change if deep down inside, they are still rotten. The change must come from within themselves Quote:
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2013-01-27, 10:59 | Link #108 | |
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GitS SAC 2nd Gig had a way, way better setup with a 3-way struggle between lawful neutral protagonists , lawful evil antagonist and chaotic good anti-hero. Revolutionary anti-hero was used by lawful evil to its purposes at times. It all made sense and was a rather believable setup. But well, I'm still content with PP considering that quality cyberpunk is a very rare find. |
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2013-01-27, 12:00 | Link #111 | |
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You should be well aware that doing otherwise is tantamount to committing rebellion against the system. Not to say that such a move isn't already called for, but these things should be planned well, especially given that doing so would instantly label them as criminals.
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2013-01-27, 12:08 | Link #112 | |
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Rather than clinging to a flawed system, they are trying to figure out what to do next and it is not really their job to change the system..... they are there to try to stop criminal as best as they can, which right now is proving to be really challenging. |
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2013-01-27, 12:30 | Link #113 | |||
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What's even more funny is how the director asked them to capture a guy that was confirmed to be immune vs dominators. How does she think they'll capture him? With bad language and fists? How did the previous serial killer get captured in the first place if he was immune as well? |
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2013-01-27, 13:34 | Link #114 |
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What's really thought-provoking about this episode was after I checked the discussion boards around the Net, two types of comments were disturbing:
- People who agreed with Makishima and said it's alright to sacrifice third-party lives as long as it's for a 'good cause': I don't think this needs much explanation, these kinds of people have been the fuel of every bloody ruler in history. You just need to present a cause to their taste. Pass the worth threshold of a fellow human's life and you can kill millions, then get still hailed as a hero. - People who ironically are outraged vs Sybil and approved Makishima because it supposedly numbed people to cattle status when they're ignorant of the infamous bystander effect that has been around for some time, even before the advent of computers: Just read the story of Kitty Genovese, practically the street scene that happened way back in 1968. So much for blaming the digital age. Then again, I especially am boggled by how people casually propose that not intervening is 'unbelievable', while NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM (read like over a hundred posts like that today, actually looked for it because it really bugged me) said that THEY WOULD intervene. Not one person. That's exactly a major factor of the bystander effect in the first place, you ASSUME that somebody else is going to intervene. Heck, this I have witnessed many times myself. We have a power outage, I mention that we should report it. My family members have for the majority of times respond, saying "somebody else must have already done it, leave it alone". I call, ask them if it was reported, the answer is "no, nobody had reported it so far". This for just a mere power outage. Then you have a MURDER case, which would cause you MUCH legal work, obligation and heh, even a chance to get murdered yourself just because you testified. Not to mention that you get nothing for the risk, effort and trouble that comes with it. My uncle personally told a story that he was assumed to hit a person with car just because he brought him to hospital. Now imagine how many people would do anything about just an accident first. Then, imagine a case of LIVE HOMICIDE IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES. The perpetrator has a hammer. What would YOU do? Not your EXPECTATIONS of somebody else. Well, I can imagine like 90% of the people staying the hell away for sure. And if anybody would actually rush in to topple the killer, he/she must have been somebody practically who would get highest medals of honor if he has been a battle. It would literally take balls of steel to go in unarmed like that. And before somebody first makes a move, any potential person to intervene would hesitate. It's A LOT different to make a move in a 1vs1 or 2vs1 situation. It's totally different than protecting yourself, which was the difference between the woman in the pharmacy who was assaulted herself and the bystanders in the street. When it's your own life, you have nothing to lose. You have everything to lose if it's someone else's. So yeah, I'm very disappointed in how people are oblivious to the bystander effect and don't make a statement about today's society and themselves. It's not just pure fiction, it's very real and we're all living factors of it. If I were to believe the Netizens, every single one thinks the other one is a good samaritan Rambo that would intervene. I'll start myself: I'd probably be scared shitless to intervene myself and most I'd do would probably be calling the police if I saw someone getting hammered on the street. |
2013-01-27, 13:49 | Link #115 |
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To be fair, I get the impression that old-fashioned guns have been completely outlawed in the world of Psycho-Pass. Notice how even the criminals in this episode use every sort of weapon except a gun. They use knifes, bats, hammers (or whatever that blunt instrument was), even pens for crying out loud. But no guns. The only person in this entire anime that I can recall seeing use an old-fashioned gun was the Cyborg Hunter. And being an over 100 years old Cyborg that likes using the bones of teenage girls for smoke pipes makes him a rather unique case.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Sibyl system decided to rid the world of guns as one of its first acts. Less guns = Less violence = More Psychologically healthy society. That might have been the thought behind it. Spoiler for Shin Sekai Yori comparison:
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2013-01-27, 14:00 | Link #116 |
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I cannot imagine any kind of government having no sure-fire personal weapons, EVER. Not in a setting like that, maybe 1000 years later when we're all in energy-form avatars or something. They would have some backup weaponry somewhere for extraordinary cases like this, not to mention the military. The director should have supplied them as soon as she ordered the capture.
Kagari quite literally warned them that they're going in unarmed vs violent suspects. Not even the super dumb future cops of Demolition Man was completely unarmed, they carried stun batons. |
2013-01-27, 14:23 | Link #117 |
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I'm far too late to the party to add any truly unique perspective to the discussion, but let me just say that I found the portrayal of the public murder to be... let's go with "sublime."
The juxtaposed twin horrors of the drone and the bystanders was brilliant. The revoltingly alien incomprehension of Sibyl, and the shamefully familiar diffusion of responsibility among humanity. Complete opposites, but both utterly impotent when they're needed most. |
2013-01-27, 17:17 | Link #118 | ||
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There's a lot more at stake here than a few Enforcers' lives if they happen to back out on that philosophy now. It's very intricate really. You have a society tiptoeing over a knife's edge, so it makes sense to struggle and retain your balance even if it seems futile, especially given the alternative. Quote:
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2013-01-27, 17:38 | Link #119 | ||
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2013-01-27, 17:50 | Link #120 | ||
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But really, whether or not it was a flawed system to start with doesn't really say much about the intelligence of the people upholding that system. By sheer inertia alone, they are compelled to keep the system going even if they have doubts regarding it.
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