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View Poll Results: Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha the Movie 2nd A's - Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 16 | 25.00% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 16 | 25.00% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 13 | 20.31% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 3 | 4.69% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 8 | 12.50% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 2 | 3.13% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 4 | 6.25% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 1.56% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 1.56% | |
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The only kid we EVER saw living on his own without support was Touma in Force.
And what happens? Subaru drags him home with her because he was living on his own. And, Demi., do you have ANY idea how expensive a house the size Hayate lives in is in Japan?
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Arf has her own linker core and can process her own mana. Sure, she ultimately relies on getting some from Fate, but it is obviously not much. That would indicate she can survive for a time without it... long enough for Fate to recover enough to send her some.
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Aren't we bringing real life values and inflation into an anime here? Another thing that made no sense to me was Grahams solution to the problem because it had no way of working out and he should have realized this. Chrono knew this, why didn't he? The only reason it even worked was because Arc En Ciel was used, yet Graham never factored that into his plans.
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And if you want to know what would've happened if Reinforce didn't do that... well, we have the Battle of Aces game to show us that road.
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2013-03-14, 19:25 | Link #249 | |
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But Nanya is right, sanity is determinate by the masses in what we call “socially accepted” but with that logic we are all crazy here because we spend our time talking about a Japanese cartoon that has 9 years all, talking animals and talking machines. So really if we are about to bring that I think this will be odd.
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2013-03-14, 19:28 | Link #250 | |
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2013-03-14, 19:29 | Link #251 | ||
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Chrono did NOT know that Graham's plan would not work out. Chrono was against it for 2 reasons, 1: Hayate did not yet commit a crime and 2: Ultimately, the book would have gotten out much later on down the line. In fact, Chrono said that his plan WOULD work, to freeze the Book between dimensions, but it wouldn't last forever. And, yes, Graham probably DID figure the Arc en Ciel into it, after all, he NUKED the book with that thing before (remember how Clyde die?). And, no, Demi., nuking the Protection Program with the Arc en Ciel would not solve anything. Reinforce SPECIFICALLY stated that even though the Protection Program was gone, it would regenerate inside of her and the WHOLE process would start ALL over again. That's why she allowed herself to get sealed away. Or did you not watch that part of the anime? Quote:
Hayate's house is about the size of Nanoha's house, so, that means that Hayate's family was likely in the same category as Nanoha's family financially. Whenever you see someone in anime living in a house in Japan, they're either A: in the country, B: Well off, C: ancestral home, or D: own it through connections to either the mob or the government.
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2013-03-14, 19:32 | Link #252 |
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Mountain out of an ant hill. That's the saying, right?
I personally don't see how the inconsistencies I stated are less of a plot-hole then how Hayate can live alone (which is rather insignificant in the grand scheme of things, imo). They can all be "explained" by use of rhetoric. But it seems to me like they're assumptions, and not fact based.
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2013-03-14, 19:35 | Link #253 | |
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There is no way that a girl that's 9 years old should be able to live on her own. Doubly so since she's in a wheelchair. So, no, Hayate living alone is a BIGGER issue than Graham finding Hayate, Demi.
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2013-03-14, 19:38 | Link #255 | |
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My opinion is not an objective fact, is the way the facts can be interpretated acording to me. So I base my opinion on the facts but look at them in a different light.
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Sansker, a little something for you from the first Men in Black movie...
"Thousands of years ago, everyone knew that the Sun revolved around the Earth. Hundreds of years ago, they knew that the Earth was flat. Just yesterday you knew that humans were the only species in the universe. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow." Facts and opinions, Sansker, can be wrong if evidence against them comes out strong enough, no matter what anyone says. I can say that an apple tastes the same as an orange to me. Would I be right? In my mind, if I believed that, yes, but I would be wrong and that's the truth. So, is Hayate a main character? Yes. YOU are the only one who says otherwise. Go ask Nanochan or NanoFate.us or even 4Chan if Hayate's a main character in A's. They'll ALL tell you "yes". Really, Sansker, you are the ONLY person who says that she's not a main character.
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2013-03-14, 19:43 | Link #259 | |
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You can explain how Graham found Hayate by saying it was all coincidence, I can say Hayate is able to live on her own because of the large sum of money she (possibly) inherited. Whether it's true or not, that's all Tsuzuki would have had to explain to make sense of how Hayate is able to live alone. Keep in mind, she wasn't living alone all her life, that inheritance didn't have to be "billions" of dollars as some people like to put it.
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And without Graham's monetary assistance, Hayate would have never been able to afford the kind of medical care she got with Ishida. Ishida was the one who told the Wolkenritter that Hayate's paralysis was advancing and would kill her, thus forming the basis for why they started to work on the book. In short, without both Graham's financial support and being listed as her legal guardian, Hayate would be placed in an orphanage. She'd make friends there, and then no longer be alone. The Wolkenritter wouldn't have had as much of an impact on her. Graham was more than just money... he was her legal guardian and he was arranging for her to stay alone. MAYBE that can be worked around; I haven't seen the movie nor the English subtitles. MAYBE it is explained. But we don't KNOW. At least we admit we don't know. Can you at least admit that much? That you don't know everything because you haven't seen a proper translation yet? Do you really want to claim to be a prophet that can predict something where you don't have all the information yet? You may turn out to be right, so can't you at least admit for a few weeks, that you don't know? Is it that hard? |
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