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2013-04-16, 18:10 | Link #27543 | |||
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I would just like to know how you think the US should deal with this situations. Since obviously the terrorist is not as you say going to come out with a sign that says "kill me I am the bad man" but is going to hide out amongst the people. What should the US do instead? And yes I feel bad for the innocent people in these countries who are caught between a war between the US and terrorists. Quote:
No clearly this was an act of terrorism to kill and injure as many people as possible (and note I do not necessarily think it is an Islamic group) Quote:
The answer to the above can all be YES and it still would not be comparable to what happened in Boston yesterday.
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2013-04-16, 18:29 | Link #27544 | |
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I agree with you. The terrorists do exploit their own Muslim brothers and sisters. They will hide amongst innocent civilians and even hide in mosques as U.S. forces are trying to stamp out enemies. The terrorists know that when they are targeted, innocent people will die often. They could choose not to do this for the sake of many innocents, but they'd rather use them as pawns to further their goals via creating more hate in the hearts of their brethren and inspiring more of their brethren to join terrorist groups and factions. To Islamic terrorists, a human being is disposable when it is all for the glory of Allah. They're rotten people.
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2013-04-16, 19:31 | Link #27546 |
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I would point out that the US methods in these other counties of targeting terrorist or even enemy soldiers is much more advanced and kills less people than they use too. Before the advent of laser guided and GPS guided munitions, they would drop a large number of bombs or artillery onto an area to kill or destroy a target. A much of the time they might miss the target but blow up everything in the general area. Today they can pinpoint a missile into an open hole, but that doesn't mean they can identify one person out of a thousand without sending in say snipers or the like (which might not be able to get close enough to begin with), so you might still get unwanted deaths from the single bomb or missile used, but it is a lot less than the old days when they had to saturate an area to get the same job done.
Though incorrect intel still causes problem even for the most advanced weaponry. How else do you accidentally hit a new Chinese embassy with a GPS guilded smart bomb. You either meant to hit the embassy, or the place was so new that the maps weren't even updated yet.
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2013-04-16, 19:36 | Link #27547 | |
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A innocent bystander might not even know he is talking to an AQ agent, or may be against AQ in the first place, but were caught in the same areas a AQ person. Case in point, in Yemen there was an Anti-AQ preacher who denounced AQ in his sermons and demand they get out of town. Rather than risking a mob reaction, they decided to go talk to him. On the day they met, a hellfire drone killed all 6 in a volley. How is that any different than planting bombs? http://dronewarfare.wordpress.com/20...-drone-strike/ In effect, US spent at least $100,000 to -Provide martyrdom to AQ members who wanted it. -Killed two potential supporter of U.S -Greatly enrage the community. |
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2013-04-16, 20:19 | Link #27549 | |
Master of Coin
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There have been dozens of cases, if not hundreds. Even in the article General McCrystal saying drone strikes are counter productive. You can literally google hundreds of examples on Drone misuse.
Here is one. http://www.catholic.org/internationa...y.php?id=50136 Quote:
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2013-04-16, 20:50 | Link #27555 |
Ava courtesy of patchy
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And here I shall repeat once more. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, and we all end up with no eye and no tooth
I mean, I can't understand why war was unavoidable after 9/11. There is an alternative, for example, strengthen your nation security, try to win over Afghanistan's people, and use them to weed out the so called terrorist(for some of the ME people, US is the terrorist for bombing their home I would guess) for one. Sure it will take longer and more costy, but the result will also last longer instead of speeding their recruiting process. Sun Tzu once said, the best victory is to win without fighting. I guess US military thinks they know better about general strategy than Sun Tzu when they decide to bomb the whole country Anyway, Boston bombing is another incident altogether. My thoughts goes to the one left behind. Hopefully security will be heightened in further events. One shining beacon in incidents like this though, it's during toughest time such as this that it's clear there's still some hope for humanity after all. Now, if only we can apply this during normal situation as well, the world might be a much better place Last edited by kuroishinigami; 2013-04-16 at 21:03. Reason: Added a little snarky comment |
2013-04-16, 20:52 | Link #27556 | |
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2013-04-16, 21:05 | Link #27557 | |
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